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Byronic Brand
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Ah the Orkney Faction, the only clan who can compare with the sons of Feanor; and I've always been in love with Morgause
I'm currently eating my words, swallowing Kuru's and reading George R.R.R.R. Martin at delirious speed. The prose isn't pretty but the plot and grandeur of conception is like drowning in Malmsey wine
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Yes, his plot is very good, though did you really get the same feeling as when you read Lord of the Rings? I found reading ASOIAF very...different. Very dark and dingy.
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Definitely not. On the other hand few books do, or should, produce in entirety the same feelings as other books
There are some very interesting things Martin actually does better than Tolkien - politics etc - but in all artistic fields he trails
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Agreeing with Anguirel about Martin doing "politics etc" better I'd like to add that there is a clear difference of the culture and "age" he writes - and a different tradition of fantasy-writing (which was more or less non-existent by the time of Tolkien).
Martin looks refreshing in many fronts and that I think makes him good today. And I do agree also on the fact that he lacks some of the artistic stuff, finesse, detail, poetry... But he doesn't arouse the same or similar feelings. Just because of the differences of time and tradition. And continuing from where Ang led us; who would want to experience the very same in the first place?
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Having been rather obsessed by George R. R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series recently
![]() As for who creates a similar feeling as Tolkien, I have two names in mind although for very different reasons. Ursula Le Guin, a genius in her own right, is the only one who can rival (and don't kill me, maybe surpass) Tolkien in writing grand-scale bittersweet mythological fantasy that you simply cannot forget and have to love. Like Tolkien, she has the gift of combining legendary and philosophical stuff with a good plot and interesting characters and balancing with it neatly without making it too shallow or alternatively pompously boring. Suffice to say, I admire her greatly. The one who can reach any kind of Tolkieny feeling in a very different way is Guy Gavriel Kay. He helped Christopher Tolkien with constructing the Silmarillion and you can see how deep he is in the Tolkienian mythology if you read his earliest novels, The Fionavar Tapestry trilogy. He doesn't really add anything new though, just recycles some of the coolest ideas from the Silmarillion alongside with more epic fantasy stuff and even King Arthur. I think The Fionavar Tapestry is slightly over the top and it would be very easy to criticise it, yet it still is a very good series, mostly thanks to Kay's touchingly epic writing style and his beautiful language. (I have to say though that I prefer his latter novels.) Those two things are actually why Kay is in a way closest to Tolkien in the contemporary fantasist: his writing is sometimes like reading a poem, and when he writes epic, it is very epic ŕ la Rohan had come at last.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Nov 2007
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I know it's not fantasy at all, but I get a lot of analogous vibes from Frank Herbert's Dune. At least from the first four volumes of that series.
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Join Date: Dec 2002
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As far as engrossing me into the world that is made, the only other fantasy book series to ever do that to me other than Tolkien was Glen Cook's Black Company series. The writing is nothing like each other, for one is smooth and eloquent, while the other is rough and direct. But I got involved in the story and the characters of botk much to the same degree..
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