WW: LXXXVIII - Trouble in the Misty Mountains: Game Thread

[Kitanna]

Well, I need to vote now and go to bed. I've been wrong about three of my highest suspects. I hope I get it right this time.

++ Legate

I've stated my reasons earlier. I'm sorry I don't have time to restate them.

[Boromir88]

I believe the count is...

Greenie ---> Nerwen
Kath ---> Greenie
Legate ---> Nerwen (2)
Kitanna ---> Legate

This is not going to be a fun 2+ hours. I was hoping to spend it figuring out if there's a wolf between Nerwen and Legate, which one is it? Or if they're distracted by being so suspicious of each other. But second guessing and doubting if sally dreamed 2 live innocent (Kath and Kitanna).

For at least the rest of the night, I'm just going to continue assuming Kit and Kath were dreamed innocent. Should I bother with another look do to second guessing?

Put a gun to my head and I can remember that Nerwen hasn't tried to appeal to my opinion, or "get me on her side" if you will. She's really just been consistant and blunt, and asked for opinions at times. And I really don't see Legate's point here:

Originally Posted by Legate

There are these "pre-emptive" words. Once again one could start asking if a Wolf would so "bluntly" post something like that. But then again, why would an innocent say that, too?

I have no doubt Nerwen would be blunt enough to say that as a wolf, but you're really taking that quote out of context. I remember G55 saying something like "Oh and when I'm lynched and proven innocent, what will your excuse be?" (yes, paraphrasing, but that was the gist). To which Nerwen replied quoted above.

Why would an innocent say that? Well, it looks rather true to me for one. G55 was willingly trying to look like a wolf. I think what it is, Legate, is you just weren't at the DL yesterday. Can you not see the frustration those antics caused? At least, on my part, I had spent over an hour trying to figure it out, but G55 started bouncing around saying she's a wolf and all but mocking us to go ahead and vote.

And I remember Nerwen was beginning to doubt because G55 had been setting up some sort of grand reveal, but she never did reveal. So, yes, I completely understand the frustration, and from my perspective G55 dug her own grave very well, which is how I was reading Nerwen's comments.

Now maybe if she did reveal it wouldn't have made much of a difference, considering the voting at that point. But if she said she was the hunter, I would not have expected a wolf to fake-reveal as the hunter at that time. And would have started trying to see if there was any chance to save G55. But G55 didn't seem to want saving.

[Inziladun]

Greenie-->Nerwen (1)
Kath-->Greenie (1)
Legate-->Nerwen (2)
Kitanna-->Legate (1)

So, no one's interested in voting Kitanna? I'd like to vote for her, but if no one follows up it'll be a waste.

Of the three that have votes, I can't see myself voting for Greenie. I just don't see much there that's terribly worrisome.

I can see the point some have made about Legate trying to stretch things.

Sally had Nerwen down as one she was concerned about, but if it was only based on normal thread observation, that doesn't mean much. Still, the opinion of a known innocent is at least trustworthy. I just don't know.

x/d with Boro

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

So, no one's interested in voting Kitanna? I'd like to vote for her, but if no one follows up it'll be a waste.

I take it you didn't see the rather obvious statement of Kit being on her side that I quoted?

I think it came when I crossed on your post detailing your suspicions against Kit.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

But compare this to Greenie's own rather convoluted reasoning behind voting me toDay. According to her own logic, she should have been killed ahead of Sally.

Yes, I know. Greenie just hasn't seemed fishy to me though. And it's very difficult to trust you.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I take it you didn't see the rather obvious statement of Kit being on her side that I quoted?

I think it came when I crossed on your post detailing your suspicions against Kit.

Yes, and I responded by saying I disagreed with your conclusion. I thought it had the look of a throwaway remark about GoT.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Zil

And it's very difficult to trust you.

Well, I could certainly return the complement...

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Yes, and I responded by saying I disagreed with your conclusion. I thought it had the look of a throwaway remark about GoT.

It may have been– I don't find it as conclusive as Boro seems to, because of the context– but all the same, Sally knew herself to be the Seer when she made it. That ought to count for something.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, I could certainly return the complement...

No doubt.

Trouble is, I don't know about Legate either. And I have to decide soon.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Yes, and I responded by saying I disagreed with your conclusion. I thought it had the look of a throwaway remark about GoT.

Ahh missed that post. My bad. Still, if sally-seer were to slip in a hint somewhere. Don't you think a literary or movie reference would be a sally way to go about it?

Also, you shouldn't really discard the fact that the seer made a stronger statement about knowing Kit was on her side more than any statement regarding anyone else.

[Laeko_Randalis]

Boromir seems to have maintained logical arguments this entire time, and has come to earn my trust. If he's a werewolf, he deserves to kill me for how legit he's made himself look.

Nerwen is seeming a bit suspicious in terms of projecting a sort of argumentative vibe, but then again, most of what I've been noticing in terms of her posts is defending herself, and when everyone's paranoid (which we all should be), that's at least somewhat understandable.

After all, yesterday I'd been noticing Nerwen and Galadriel acting very similarly, and then I went and voted to lynch the blasted Hunter! Given none of the wolves have yet been lynched, my immediate conclusion for losing two gifteds in one night was "well, we're definitely screwed now."

[Nerwen]

Well then. If we all hold our votes much longer, I die by default anyway. That would be very bad.

So–

++Legate.

[Inziladun]

So let's see, if I want my vote to count, it seems I have to vote for:

1. Nerwen, who I have reservations about, but who admittedly as a wolf should have been more worried about Greenie as a Seer than Sally;

2. Legate, who does seem to be reaching a bit to make some of his points, but has also received a vote from someone I'm not comfortable with (Kit);

or

3. Greenie, who hasn't stood out as particularly suspicious thus far, beyond the fixation on Nerwen.

x/d with Nerwen

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Zil

Well, let's see. I don't see anything really noteworthy about Greenie's list there. It is a bit curious that while Sally had expressed suspicion of you, it was Greenie who had voted for you Day 2. It doesn't mean I don't have my doubts about you, but it's food for thought.

But compare this to Greenie's own rather convoluted reasoning behind voting me toDay. According to her own logic, she should have been killed ahead of Sally.

EDIT:X'd with Zil and Boro.