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Old 11-06-2011, 08:27 PM   #1
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Oh come on, that was nearly half an hour (or more by the time I finish this...). If there are any Wolves lurking around and avoiding posting, I hope they are lynched a painful lynch.

Zil definitely deserves a second look, for future reference - he is sort of floating on the edge of the debate, adding a bit here and there, very sort of "defensive" or maybe rather "pre-emptive", that's better word - very careful in pointing out how he did not want to vote Pitch, how he was freaked out by other people voting Pitch too (why did you vote him, then?), next Day immediately making sure he posts explanations as to why did he vote him, yesterDay making a vote when the bandwagon was already running smoothly, making several posts with little substance or lot of uncertainity, like this:

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Boro is up to something. Good? Evil? Meh.
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Greenie seems sharp somehow. Not really sure what I mean by that, but she makes sense and gives me pause at the same time.
= saying nothing, and yet this was quite a substantial portion of his post...

And so on. But nevertheless, this is all to remark that it might be good to look at him. As for my current vote, I will go with my original option, that is,

++Nerwen

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Old 11-06-2011, 08:37 PM   #2
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Zil definitely deserves a second look, for future reference - he is sort of floating on the edge of the debate, adding a bit here and there, very sort of "defensive" or maybe rather "pre-emptive", that's better word - very careful in pointing out how he did not want to vote Pitch, how he was freaked out by other people voting Pitch too (why did you vote him, then?)
I answered already that here.


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next Day immediately making sure he posts explanations as to why did he vote him, yesterDay making a vote when the bandwagon was already running smoothly, making several posts with little substance or lot of uncertainity, like this:
As a matter of fact, I have been rather uncertain. As for why I explained things the way I did, see here.
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Old 11-06-2011, 09:04 PM   #3
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Legate–

I've had this. Once again– I put forward the "Boro theory" early in the day, and did not continue after Greenie pointed out the discrepancy.

I did not "push it" at any point. You, on the other hand, have constantly been repeating that I have been in an apparent attempt to hypnotise the village into thinking this must be the case.

It has gone past the point where I can believe it an innocent mistake.
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Old 11-06-2011, 09:12 PM   #4
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Oh, and similarly the repetition of "she's so jumpy" (i.e. supposedly wolvish.) Yeah, because I argued against you and objected to your weirdly over-the-top aggression. Oh, yes, how very terribly evil of me, Legate.
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Old 11-06-2011, 09:28 PM   #5
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Well, I need to vote now and go to bed. I've been wrong about three of my highest suspects. I hope I get it right this time.

++ Legate

I've stated my reasons earlier. I'm sorry I don't have time to restate them.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:02 PM   #6
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I believe the count is...

Greenie ---> Nerwen
Kath ---> Greenie
Legate ---> Nerwen (2)
Kitanna ---> Legate

This is not going to be a fun 2+ hours. I was hoping to spend it figuring out if there's a wolf between Nerwen and Legate, which one is it? Or if they're distracted by being so suspicious of each other. But second guessing and doubting if sally dreamed 2 live innocent (Kath and Kitanna).

For at least the rest of the night, I'm just going to continue assuming Kit and Kath were dreamed innocent. Should I bother with another look do to second guessing?

Put a gun to my head and I can remember that Nerwen hasn't tried to appeal to my opinion, or "get me on her side" if you will. She's really just been consistant and blunt, and asked for opinions at times. And I really don't see Legate's point here:

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And should you happen to turn out innocent– which is seeming less and less likely– my excuse would of course be that I thought you were probably a wolf, from your conduct. Which I do.
There are these "pre-emptive" words. Once again one could start asking if a Wolf would so "bluntly" post something like that. But then again, why would an innocent say that, too?
I have no doubt Nerwen would be blunt enough to say that as a wolf, but you're really taking that quote out of context. I remember G55 saying something like "Oh and when I'm lynched and proven innocent, what will your excuse be?" (yes, paraphrasing, but that was the gist). To which Nerwen replied quoted above.

Why would an innocent say that? Well, it looks rather true to me for one. G55 was willingly trying to look like a wolf. I think what it is, Legate, is you just weren't at the DL yesterday. Can you not see the frustration those antics caused? At least, on my part, I had spent over an hour trying to figure it out, but G55 started bouncing around saying she's a wolf and all but mocking us to go ahead and vote.

And I remember Nerwen was beginning to doubt because G55 had been setting up some sort of grand reveal, but she never did reveal. So, yes, I completely understand the frustration, and from my perspective G55 dug her own grave very well, which is how I was reading Nerwen's comments.

Now maybe if she did reveal it wouldn't have made much of a difference, considering the voting at that point. But if she said she was the hunter, I would not have expected a wolf to fake-reveal as the hunter at that time. And would have started trying to see if there was any chance to save G55. But G55 didn't seem to want saving.
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Old 11-06-2011, 10:06 PM   #7
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Greenie-->Nerwen (1)
Kath-->Greenie (1)
Legate-->Nerwen (2)
Kitanna-->Legate (1)

So, no one's interested in voting Kitanna? I'd like to vote for her, but if no one follows up it'll be a waste.

Of the three that have votes, I can't see myself voting for Greenie. I just don't see much there that's terribly worrisome.

I can see the point some have made about Legate trying to stretch things.

Sally had Nerwen down as one she was concerned about, but if it was only based on normal thread observation, that doesn't mean much. Still, the opinion of a known innocent is at least trustworthy. I just don't know.

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So, no one's interested in voting Kitanna? I'd like to vote for her, but if no one follows up it'll be a waste.
I take it you didn't see the rather obvious statement of Kit being on her side that I quoted?

I think it came when I crossed on your post detailing your suspicions against Kit.
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I think this actually looks more like a coded list than anything Sally posted– note all the "undecideds" and "not sure about alignments". It is true that only one person (Kath) is in the "good vibes" category, but Seers don't always list the people they know of together– too much of a giveaway– and I'd accept Legate's being "fine this far" as a near-equivalent.

I'm just wondering why the wolves bit on Sally instead.
Well, let's see. I don't see anything really noteworthy about Greenie's list there. It is a bit curious that while Sally had expressed suspicion of you, it was Greenie who had voted for you Day 2. It doesn't mean I don't have my doubts about you, but it's food for thought.
But compare this to Greenie's own rather convoluted reasoning behind voting me toDay. According to her own logic, she should have been killed ahead of Sally.

EDIT:X'd with Zil and Boro.
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