TIG XCIV– WHere the Stars Are Strange (Game thread)

[Eruhen]

Indeed, I did ask to be modfired. As I stated several times on Day 1, real life kept getting in the way. I would have loved to stay around, though, and great game to everyone.

I about died laughing on Day 2 watching you guys scramble around because of the narration of She Who Walks Among the Stars. Great job, Nerwen!

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Eruhen

Indeed, I did ask to be modfired. As I stated several times on Day 1, real life kept getting in the way. I would have loved to stay around, though, and great game to everyone.

I about died laughing on Day 2 watching you guys scramble around because of the narration of She Who Walks Among the Stars. Great job, Nerwen!

Hmph. And I had to spend all the next Day repeating that I wasn't responsible.

[Boromir88]

No worries, Nerwen, as Pitch said, we can't foresee how experimental roles play out...it really swung the balance against us in the end, but I hardly played my best as a wolf and at the start of the game, if anything the wolves had an advantage.

After Lommy wasn't killed, I was rather sad, because it pretty much ruined my only reason for rolling over quickly, and I thought then I probably should have fought Lommy harder. When I said I was out of it/exhausted on Day 1, I meant it . And after becoming so focused on Legate (who I told the rest of the pack I shouldn't have given him that lead on me last time I was a wolf, because he can spot me right off the bat now), I wasn't at all prepared to fight Lommy. And after basically the majority of innocents were declaring "I'm inclined to believe Lommy, because there's no reason she would be a wolf and do this," I wasn't going to argue...sorry dear. I figured dying would make Shasta and Pitch look good, and if I fought it would have exposed them, so why do it when they can just kill Lommy at night?

Anyways, once Lommy declared the acolyte for the village, it was a rather impossible situation. But that might not have ever happened, and it's not like we wolves, as brilliantly as we worked on the kills to get rid of gifteds, couldn't have played better during the day phase. I certainly could have played better. It wasn't the acolyte or game mechanics, it was simply a really tough group of villagers who made finding suspicions against them difficult. At the start, we were keeping Legate and Inzil alive for as long as possible since having the attention on them was working for us...but then Eonwe had to reveal Inzil innocent, and that forced us to lynch Legate. That night we really struggled figuring out who we could make look suspicious, because, we had to kill Eonwe and so couldn't make anyone look bad from the night kill, and everyone else was looking oooohhh sooo innocent.

And a couple more things to point out...

I didn't notice this at first, but it's hilarious in how ironic it is, because I'm responding to Pitch about Lommy's "90% innocent comment"

She means Shasta looks innocent, not me.

Silly Lommy, should have let me keep yapping away, I probably could have handed to you my spy-mates. But now. I'm staying zip.

What do you know about me? I have no problem bussing packmates. I was fully prepared to do it to Shasta that day (but you of course thought I was lynching an innocent Shasta)...but once you revealed about me, no way was I going to help in wolf-lynching. And funny to me (completely unintented, just a reactionary comment) how I respond to Pitch, and in talking about Shasta say "I could have handed to you my spy-mates" haha

I don't have the pms anymore, but the first night we had a kill choice...no joke. I clarified Rikae's hint about the coyote/wabbit and how I thought she was the hunter, so now would probably be the best chance to get rid of the hunter if we didn't think we could find the seer. With our pack make-up, finding the seer was our priority...well Shasta, in his brilliant psychicness pointed out there was something unusual (as in the "possible gifted" sense) about Eonwe and G55. And he wouldn't be surprised if they were the seer and ranger. haha, And there, had we gone with Eonwe, instead of Rikae, things might have turned out differently.

Pom, don't hate me...well ok, it's acceptable to hate me within the context of WW, because it's completely silly to trust me so quickly and easily. But outside of WW, please don't hate me, a person can not help when they are told "be furry."

[Nogrod]

Haha. There you go.

Originally Posted by the Psychic Shasta-Wolf in a PM N2

Oddly enough, something is pushing me to kill Eonwe and G55. It's probably nothing, though.

There's no denying that man is a psychic (before that quoted part he agrees with us others who wished to kill Rikae for being the hunter)...

[Pomegranate]

Agree with everyone. It was fun, it was more than a little chaotic, Eru's mysterious death made this game in a different way exciting than many of the games I've played since we were all completely off the lead. Or, well, who more who less.

Boro: I won't hate you On the first day, though, were you actually lost or was playing nice part of some strategy?

Greenie: I seriously hope I will never play in a game where you are a wolf. You are unreadable.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Pomegranate

Boro: I won't hate you On the first day, though, were you actually lost or was playing nice part of some strategy?

I really was exhausted, since that day I was running mostly on caffeine and not a healthy amount of sleep by any means.

But last time I was a wolf, and Legate was in the game (I think it was Shasta's Misty Mountains game). Legate went after me for the same reasons, and afterwards I told him don't stop pursuing that lead (of me being nicer when evil ). I really don't know how I give it away, and I was trying to fix it for this game, because I told the pack that Legate knew my honey-coated wolvish behavior quite well. I think it's just an unconscious vibe I give away, and don't intend. Innocent-me, I don't care what happens to me, night-kill me, lynch me, trust me, I don't care I'm going to annoy people and just hopefully it's the wolves. Wolf-me, tries very hard not to be suspected.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

It was a splendid game, despite some hard time of understanding between some innocents (I thought people do know by this time that the phrase "Legate 180" which you have made up yourselves comes from the moment when I was innocent). And it was especially nice for me to play after some break (since autumn, I think). Well played, everyone - I think I am not exaggerating if I say that people on all sides really played to the best of their abilities this time. It was a tough one.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Sorry, wolves – I was trying to get a balance between making the game winnable for the Acolyte, without making it impossible for whatever side she *didn't* choose, but I think I erred on the side of the first. I just never expected Lommy would get the whole village on side so easily once she came out.

I have been thinking about it (after I died and Lommy told me about her new role) and I think it wasn't that unbalanced. It was really just that the set of coincidences ended up in all cases in the best way for the village. But there were things which could have failed on the line so many times - wrong dream, disbelief from the village's side, even up to Lommy being lynched... She was also very careful not to say anything that would raise too many eyebrows. I mean, if she had said "and btw, Wolves can't probably kill me at Night also", the village would surely have started being a bit more suspicious about her claim. Not to speak of more things she could have said. In general, yes, I think the Acolyte could have been somehow less powerful - it was basically a huge boost to whichever side she'd choose to be on - but I can't honestly think of a way to make it still equally possible for her to win the game while giving her less powers.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

You're kidding me. Pitch? Honestly? You were the one I was quite positive wasn't a wolf. Anyway, kudos to you 4, you did an amazing job! As well as kudos to our two Seers who more or less swung the game for us - I don't think we'd have stood a chance against a wolf pack of Nog-Boro-Shasta-Pitch!

Eexactly my words. I mean, of the four, I think Pitch would be among the last people I'd leave alive in the village, if it was up to me, maybe along with Sally and Lottie - and maybe I'd even let Sally go before him. I was quite suspicious of Boro (who however managed to get off the village's hook) and Shasta (who almost managed the same after my death, which I don't really understand; what was the village thinking? Later the topic of the Day was the Acolyte's dream, of course, but still, starting the Day by saying that Shasta is basically cleared...) And all the Bom-proposals... Shasta, was it really your plan to make us all who said "we hate random votes" to vote him, or was it supposed to be originally just your own, private excuse for your own vote?

I was at least capable of suspecting Nog (unlike in Pitch's case), even though I pretty much trusted him initially... more so than Eönwë... once again, sorry for that disbelief!!! But let this truly be a lesson to everyone, if you are convinced of someone's guilt, you really aren't looking left and right, especially if they out of the blue come with the claim that they are the Seer, you're just "oh no, seriously? Don't be silly...").

Originally Posted by Eruhen

Indeed, I did ask to be modfired. As I stated several times on Day 1, real life kept getting in the way. I would have loved to stay around, though, and great game to everyone.

I about died laughing on Day 2 watching you guys scramble around because of the narration of She Who Walks Among the Stars. Great job, Nerwen!

Quite so. I think such a plot device is very good and I'd have nothing against it being used more often.
But see, I said so! At least something I was right about in this game.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Hmph. And I had to spend all the next Day repeating that I wasn't responsible.

Indeed! The claim "Inzil is the Acolyte - the EVIL Acolyte - who killed Eruhen!" was the most ridiculous stretch I have ever seen in the whole WW history!!!

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Haha. There you go.
There's no denying that man is a psychic (before that quoted part he agrees with us others who wished to kill Rikae for being the hunter)...

Eek... totally.

Originally Posted by Pomegranate

Greenie: I seriously hope I will never play in a game where you are a wolf. You are unreadable.

Yes. You shouldn't. She is. Always.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

But last time I was a wolf, and Legate was in the game (I think it was Shasta's Misty Mountains game). Legate went after me for the same reasons, and afterwards I told him don't stop pursuing that lead (of me being nicer when evil). I really don't know how I give it away, and I was trying to fix it for this game, because I told the pack that Legate knew my honey-coated wolvish behavior quite well. I think it's just an unconscious vibe I give away, and don't intend. Innocent-me, I don't care what happens to me, night-kill me, lynch me, trust me, I don't care I'm going to annoy people and just hopefully it's the wolves. Wolf-me, tries very hard not to be suspected.

Indeed, that's how it was Specifically: In that one game, I was pursuing Boro because of that, but he retorted by such a desperate defense (which he kept for like the whole day, if not more), that I started reconsidering and was like "okay, sorry, didn't want to upset you..." But after that, he turned out to be a Wolf indeed and told me that I should have held to my claim. So I told him that from then on, I am never going to let myself talked out of it if he does that again.

Anyway, it was really a great game. And even though I haven't been playing for some time, I still think I can say that it was one of the best games I've played "lately" (read: from the games I have actually played).

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Haha. There you go.
There's no denying that man is a psychic (before that quoted part he agrees with us others who wished to kill Rikae for being the hunter)...

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