TIG XCIV– WHere the Stars Are Strange (Game thread)

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

That would of course be shiny in case we manage to lose our Seer early.

Manage to? Is this something you're hoping will happen?

[Inziladun]

This kerfluffle over the Acolyte does serve another purpose, I see. Interesting.

[Rikae]

It seems to me that with the relatively high number of wolves in this village, the acolyte is more likely helpful than harmful. Thing is, from the description, the two possibilities that come to mind first for me: a sort of seer-werebear and a seer-cobbler (partial seer or weak seer)- would complicate matters more for the village. Of course a normal werebear would reveal itself by toMorrow. Anyway, there's too much confusion: though I agree with Legate on the importance of simply starting conversation, it's time we moved on. In that vein, I don't much care for Inzil and Bom's empty posts, Gal's banter... which does look odd... and Green's post that points out its oddness. Yep, I contradict myself, I contain multitudes, etc.

EDIT: X'd with Inzil and fixed typo.

[Loslote]

The Acolyte conversation does have its uses. We can look back at what everyone said and their reactions to other people's posts and start from there. What doesn't help is ranting about random votes. We all know that random votes are annoying, useless, and even detrimental to the village. We didn't need three people to rant about it in order to figure this out. The rants take up post space, making the ranters look like they're posting a lot, but they're very safe in that no one will argue with them, and they can't tell us anything about the poster or about people responding to them since the only way to respond to them is another rant saying the same thing or a rant saying that random votes aren't that bad - which I can't see anyone actually posting. It had its purpose among the first couple of posts, when it was basically the same, practically, as banter, but we've moved past that by this point. So...yeah, stop with the ranting about points that were never in dispute, please.

[Rikae]

On discussing random votes... Lommy first mentioned it (in ALL CAPS) without taking much space for it, and Legate later elaborated on it a great deal, and then Nog rehashed it as well. Thing is, Legate and Nog are pretty wordy guys at any rate and I don't think they were hurting for posting material so much as having a habit of posting on (almost) every topic that comes to mind. If someone were posting exclusively random-votes warnings and threats, I might agree with you Lottie - or if, from what I'd seen in the past, I shared your optimism about everyone refraining from declarations of randomness without such warnings.

Inzil, as I said, I agree with Legate. Posts that demand people work on catching wolves, rather than work on it themselves, are empty posts.

EDIT: X'd with Galadriel & Steve

[Eönwë]

And I just realised that I missed out Lottie's post, where she says what I said about the acolyte discussion about the random vote discussion. And yet, ironically, she says that the acolyte discussion is useful and explains why, when even more people have just been repeating the same points about that over and over again.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Rikae

On discussing random votes... Lommy first mentioned it (in ALL CAPS) without taking much space for it, and Legate later elaborated on it a great deal, and then Nog rehashed it as well. Thing is, Legate and Nog are pretty wordy guys at any rate and I don't think they were hurting for posting material so much as having a habit of posting on (almost) every topic that comes to mind.

I think Lommy's post is understandable - it was at the very beginning of the Day and it was more useful than banter, which was the other option at that point. But just because Legate and Nog are typically wordy doesn't mean Legate had to elaborate on that to such great extent, and it definitely doesn't mean Nog has to post the exact same thing as Legate already has.

[Rikae]

If you're looking for people who aren't making useful posts, Lottie, I wonder: what do you think of Galadriel55?

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Rikae

If you're looking for people who aren't making useful posts, Lottie, I wonder: what do you think of Galadriel55?

This caught my eye when she posted it:

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

This looks like the kind of Day One that is spent discussing what should be done on Day Ones.

Considering that this is actually one of the more productive Day Ones in recent memory, this feels like G55 trying to stall useful discussion by writing it off as "oh, well, this Day is doomed to be non-productive, too bad".

Other than that, though, nothing she's said really stood out to me.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Rikae

If you're looking for people who aren't making useful posts, Lottie, I wonder: what do you think of Galadriel55?

This post has made me very angry. Yes, angry. This way of saying it infuriates me. You could have just said "G55 didn't post anything on content", which would be more or less true. But the way you're saying it is more like "oh look Lottie, you are against people who talk banter and here's G55 posting along whom you haven't analyzed yet. Wanna say that particularily she is useless?"

Yes, I'm saying this despite the risk of flying up on people's suspicion lists. This is what I think of you, and I'm not afraid to say it. Let's all decide that G55 is not posting anything useless, but let that come from someone else's mouth, eh? If you suspect me, say so. If you don't like the way I post, say so. If I'm on the top of your lynch list, say so. Don't ask Lottie to say it for you, or talk to her as though it's a private conversation between you and her!


*deep breath*

/rant.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

I see the point, but not so much the danger. At this stage, our hypotheses are most likely to be off the mark or at best incomplete, and in the end it comes down to how the Acolyte really works, not how we or the wolves think we can use them. In the meantime, I'm sure the wolves don't want to give us ideas either, so they (or some of them) might be trying to avoid the discussion. See my point?

Ah, yes. Haven't thought of that.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Anyway, there's too much confusion: though I agree with Legate on the importance of simply starting conversation, it's time we moved on. In that vein, I don't much care for Inzil and Bom's empty posts, Gal's banter... which does look odd... and Green's post that points out its oddness. Yep, I contradict myself, I contain multitudes, etc.

Ah. You agree with me, but you don't like my "empty" posts. Makes perfect sense.