Game thread - Werewolf C - The Father Christmas Murders

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Ah well. I guess our ancient WWing losing streak together with Zil is not going to get better with this game, not at all, preciouss. I doubt it could have gone worse, actually. Spot-on Seer picks, a Ranger save on our first kill, heavy suspicion of Zil from the start and then me...

Absolutely congratulations to G55, though, and all the honor - is it your Seer-debut? Because that was just deadly aim. It seemed to us on Day 1, if I recall correctly, that you were acting weird, but to the point that it seemed weird to consider you being the Seer - possibly Ranger or somesuch, or that's what I thought. On Day 2, I was wondering whether you aren't the Cobbler, but then I saw that whatever you were doing was not very Cobbler-wise and that you were getting yourself killed (aka "a 180 turn at the beginning of the Day about me, is that normal?"). My thoughts on Day 2 were "she must be absolutely the worst Cobbler I have seen in a while". Alas, you weren't, instead you were the best Seer I have seen in a while. *Hat off*

Shasta's save was also an important factor, though that was more random stroke of luck, since our original plan was not actually to go for Nerwen. Also, one of the picks was G55, whom we still debated, because we feared she might be protected (!) - had we killed her, things might indeed have been possibly markingly different... Lommy and Cop were the other two options for our first kill... I am sure Zil can better elaborate what happened

So, G55, why exactly did you go after me on Day 1, if you have dreamt of me only on the second Day?

Anyway, I think I have been saying it during the last few games I have played, because it was always like this, after a long pause; it is really nice to play WW again. Even if for just this short while. (After the initial crisis of Day 1, when I thought I might lose Zil already, I have actually been quite hopeful... especially once G55-wagon seemed to start rolling... and then she had to reveal. Ah well.)

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Shasta's save was also an important factor, though that was more random stroke of luck, since our original plan was not actually to go for Nerwen. Also, one of the picks was G55, whom we still debated, because we feared she might be protected (!) - had we killed her, things might indeed have been possibly markingly different... Lommy and Cop were the other two options for our first kill... I am sure Zil can better elaborate what happened

Well, I decided you could be right about G55 being protected, so she was out. The more I looked at it, the less Gifted Cop and Lommy appeared. Then the Good Idea Fairy showed up and convinced me Nerwen could be the Ranger. She was also a good bet for a trailless kill, so I thought "Why not"? Stymied there by bad luck and good Ranger intuition.

By the way, I'm glad we had that talk about bussing. I thought the wind was blowing for a Legate-lynch, and nothing I did would stop it. If I tried, I might be setting myself up as a Seer target. Once again though, nefarious plans come to nought,

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Absolutely congratulations to G55, though, and all the honor - is it your Seer-debut? Because that was just deadly aim. It seemed to us on Day 1, if I recall correctly, that you were acting weird, but to the point that it seemed weird to consider you being the Seer - possibly Ranger or somesuch, or that's what I thought. On Day 2, I was wondering whether you aren't the Cobbler, but then I saw that whatever you were doing was not very Cobbler-wise and that you were getting yourself killed (aka "a 180 turn at the beginning of the Day about me, is that normal?"). My thoughts on Day 2 were "she must be absolutely the worst Cobbler I have seen in a while". Alas, you weren't, instead you were the best Seer I have seen in a while. *Hat off*

Thank you for your compliments! But you flatter me. Most of it was just luck and failed plans.

This is my second time as Seer. My first was way back when in Boro's game.

But did you actually consider me as a possible cobbler for so long? I thought you were thinking about it, but then thought better in your last posts, which is why I got desperate and grabbed the last role out there that might not be targeted.

Originally Posted by Legate

So, G55, why exactly did you go after me on Day 1, if you have dreamt of me only on the second Day?

I suspected you based on feel. And I knew it was really dangerous to do this, in case I'm killed and you're actually innocent, but I didn't suspect Boro much anymore by voting time, and you were my only suspect, and I couldn't explain it better than "feel" because there wasn't much to explain, and I din't have time to hint at Shasta either (and didn't want to overdo it and risk him getting killed)...

Originally Posted by Inziladun

By the way, I'm glad we had that talk about bussing. I thought the wind was blowing for a Legate-lynch, and nothing I did would stop it. If I tried, I might be setting myself up as a Seer target. Once again though, nefarious plans come to nought,

Actually, a major factor in my dream choice was how easily you seemed to go along with what I said. I was thinking "he's so supportive it seems like he's overdoing a bit of fake feeling". I guess bussing is a tough business - you can't hesitate too much, you can't not hesitate too much...

But, Zil, why did you go for Nerwen on Night3? The Ranger cannot self-protect. Was it just the trusted innocent factor?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

But, Zil, why did you go for Nerwen on Night3? The Ranger cannot self-protect. Was it just the trusted innocent factor?

That, and a frustrated desire to get a certain kill.

[Galadriel55]

By the way, before I forget - what's "Roger, wolf tower"?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

By the way, before I forget - what's "Roger, wolf tower"?

Way back, in a game Glirdan hosted, Rikae and I were packmates, and Nerwen a Lover whose purpose was to find me. I hinted to her early on (obviously not something hard to do ) and Rikae mentioned at the end of the game that she was worried it would come back to bite us - Nerwen had responded to something I said, and Rikae thought it looked too obviously like acknowledging my wolfishness - hence, "roger, wolf tower!"