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Old 07-30-2014, 04:49 AM   #1
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Sorry to suddenly barge in on the conversation. This is my first time posting on the site but I just watched this teaser and felt I really needed to say something about it.
No need to apologise, this is what discussion forums are for!

DoS is ten times worse than AUJ. You've missed nothing not seeing it.

I shouldn't check this thread at work though, remembering all these horrors makes me cringe and sooner or later coworkers will start asking about the funny face.
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Old 07-30-2014, 07:58 AM   #2
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DoS is ten times worse than AUJ. You've missed nothing not seeing it.
For me it's a dilemma. I think both films are incredibly flawed but for different reasons.

A lot of commentators online seem to be arguing that three films were necessary for the plot to make sense and so on. I think that would be more true if the screenplays trusted the source material more. One thing I will say for these films is that although both of the ones which have come out so far are about 45 minutes to an hour too long, I don't necessarily object to the different 'episodes' of the original text being given room to breathe.

If I'm to be perfectly honest I'm actually not averse to the current 'trilogy' structure as such, but for it to work it would have to hew more closely to the source material and focus more on characterisation and atmosphere than additional action. If there is one thing these films seem to get praised for with zero substantiation it's the idea of characterisation, since in my view it's either totally generic characterisation (Bilbo and Thorin) or there is no characterisation where there could be (most of the other Dwarves).

We've still got the books, though, haven't we? Books with big pictures of Martin Freeman on the cover.
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Old 07-30-2014, 08:39 AM   #3
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Books with big pictures of Martin Freeman on the cover.
Galling, isn't it.
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Old 07-30-2014, 11:45 AM   #4
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Galling, isn't it.
Martin Freeman is in The Hobbit? What character does he play? I always thought he'd make an excellent Bilbo Baggins.
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Old 07-30-2014, 01:30 PM   #5
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What's galling is that many books now have movie imagery plastered all over them.

In my opinion he hasn't made a particularly great Bilbo Baggins.
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Yeah, to be honest, Freeman's performance as Bilbo is a bit too deadpan. It's kind of difficult to imagine that this hobbit would one day be Ian Holm's Bilbo.
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