WW CVII: Restless Nights in Sleepy Hollow - Game Thread

[satansaloser2005]

Mac is not allowed to be lynched because he coined the term Aganseer and I know how much Agan will love that. Also I don't find him on the top of my suspicion list (which is most of what I'm going to focus on at the moment because again, very sleepy).


I know this is a stretch, and I may regret bringing it up in the morning, but I want to call attention to this from Wilwa.

Originally Posted by Cuddle Muffin

Slight chance I'll be up early enough to come back, but more than likely I won't be on until Day 3, when I seriously hope to have the time to do more.

Specifying that she won't be back until the next Day seems....well, how would she know she'd be around on the next Day? More importantly, why specify that she'll be back on Day 3, rather than saying she'll be gone for a couple of days? Could she be alerting her pack to an absence this coming Night? She does note that she hopes to have the time to do more, which could be taken as either a desire to participate in discussion or a desire to communicate with her pack. Perhaps just straws, but it's a distinct ping for me at this point. I believe Wilwa would be bold enough to make such a comment, being unable to communicate with her pack any other way at this point, and the specificity of her wording seems tricksy to me.


Mac is also not allowed to be lynched because he said Legate band-tricycle. You are on point today, my friend!


Meanwhile, my Nerwen radar is saying....nothing, which is distinctly unsettling. In my experience, my Nerwen radar always gives off the exact opposite impression, which is to say that I suspect her when she's innocent (especially when she's gifted) and ignore her when she's evil. I'd forgotten she was playing until I came across one of her posts, and I'll also note that she's not done nearly as much saccharine banter with Shasta as I would expect (though perhaps that's due to his own lack of participation?). I don't feel comfortable voting her toDay based solely on this, but it's something I must keep an eye on.


Dun's reaction to toDay's attention makes me wonder what he might be. I feel an innocent Dun would laugh and shrug it off (though the commentary to the wolves at the start of the Day was amusing and seemed typical of him), but he's gone through a range of reactions as the Day has gone on, from panic to straight face to the following comment.

Originally Posted by Dun Dun Dun

Hmm. There's still a distinct lack of activity from some, which is problematic.

Given Wilwa's quoted comment above (which comes not long before Dun's above post) I almost feel like this is some sort of sign of recognition, perhaps even disapproval, toward a semi-absent packmate. I know I'm connecting two "if then" dots, but between Dun's actions toDay and Wilwa's possibly pointed comment, I don't feel like the dots are too far apart.


Currently that makes my top options Wilwa and Dun. I feel Dun is the popular choice toDay, but I'll give it a quick think as I ready for bed and make my decision upon my return.



x'd with the McCobbler (I've missed you, by the way!)

[satansaloser2005]

++Dun to be done

I find his comments and shifting attitudes toDay too bizarre to ignore. Besides, I'm extra paranoid about him from our last game.

I'm out for the night. Sleep well, my loves.

[McCaber]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

x'd with the McCobbler (I've missed you, by the way!)

I know, it's been a while. Good to finally be back.

Although your point on wilwa here really seems like a stretch to me. Especially when trying to connect it to Inzil like you've done. Not really a fan.

Speaking of, I don't really agree with the recent Inzil train. He looks more like an ordo to me, albeit a weirdly-acting one. And LG has done nothing to make me suspicious of her that I can see.

Of the people who have votes already, I most suspect Mac. I really don't like his post here, because it looks like trying to sow discontent with nothing much to go on.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by McCaber

Although your point on wilwa here really seems like a stretch to me.

I admit it may be far-fetched, but it caught my eye as I was reading the thread and I'd rather make issue of it now and feel silly in the morning than forget about it and have it go unnoticed. That said, I know Wilwa can be that tricksy, but I also know how sleepy I am, which is why I didn't want to act on it without giving it further thought and voted for Dun instead; despite what Agan's death may say of him, he's still acting too suspicious for my tastes.


Why the frell am I still up? I'm not, that's the answer to that. Good night, kiddos.

[McCaber]

Well, I must to bed. So without further ado

++ Macalaure

[A Little Green]

If I'm right, the tally looks something like this:

wilwa – Greenie
Inzil – Nerwen
Mac – Greenie (2)
Shasta – Mac
Rikae – Inzil
Sally – Inzil (2)
Cab – Mac (2)

So - three-way tie with two people left to vote, and the first to gain the final number of votes dies, right? Which basically means that the one out of Nerwen and myself who votes first decides the lynch. Which makes it pretty straightforward, really - I know I'm not a wolf, and so even though I'd like to think this over a little longer, read through the posts of both gentlemen and then decide, I don't want to risk the village certainly losing an innocent as opposed to losing someone who at least could be a wolf. So, out of those two, I'm going to go with

++ Macalaure

[Nerwen]

Okay… I think this makes my vote non-effective, whatever I do.

[A Little Green]

So why Mac and not Inzil? Process of elimination, basically. I don't find Inzil particularly suspicious; stuff like yesterDay's suspecting Cab but voting for Mac to get a reaction doesn't strike me as something an Inzilwolf would necessarily do. While Mac might not have been top of my list either, he's at least been sketchier than Inzil. I still think he'd be more involved as a wolf; but his reaction to when I pointed this out was odd, and I'm not quite comfortable with his way of being "fluffy and agreeable" (his own words).


EDIT: x-ed with Nerwen

[Nerwen]

Tally

Wilwa —> Greenie
Inzil —> Nerwen
Mac —> Greenie (2)
Shasta —> Mac
Rikae —> Inzil
Sally —> Inzil (2)
McCaber —> Mac (2)
Greenie —> Mac (3)


So everyone else has voted, and Mac dies under the tie-breaker rule.

So, hoping for the best:
++Macalaure

For the record, I think Greenie looks rather worse, but there are points against Mac, and he was someone I was at least considering.

Unfortunately, I don’t think learning his role will tell us that much about Greenie’s. I mean, if he’s a wolf it’s not *likely* she’s his fellow, but hardly something we could count on either. A pity.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Rikae

But what I wonder is: why would an innocent Greenie repeatedly bring up such inconsistencies without any intent to either cast, or to answer, suspicion?

Simple answer: Day 1. On a Day 1, I generally bring up anything and everything that catches my attention unless I have a good reason not to mention it.

Originally Posted by Rikae, underlining mine

As for my posts on Cab, I can't see how it would be unclear to any honest reader: I was surprised by Inzil & Legate's suspicion which seemed disproportionate, and then made a guess as to what they meant: something I had noticed but didn't consider particularly significant myself.

What would be the point of sneakily casting suspicion on someone who was, at that point, the most suspected anyway?

So you're basically implying that anyone who finds something you do suspicious is either stupid or dishonest? I'm sorry, but I find that a little excessive. If you're innocent - the rest of us don't know your role, and without that information, it shouldn't come as a surprise that we also produce interpretations that look obviously wrong from your perspective. If you're a wolf - well, that would explain the defensiveness, but even so I think rhetorics like that are a little out of proportion in this context.

As for your question - sneakily casting suspicion on McCaber would serve to increase a general atmosphere of "McCaber is suspicious". This was early on in Day 1, so even though Cab was the most suspected person at that point, he wasn't suspected very much, and subtly adding to the suspicion on him would serve to take it to a more serious level. Does it make sense now?

Originally Posted by Sally

Specifying that she won't be back until the next Day seems....well, how would she know she'd be around on the next Day? More importantly, why specify that she'll be back on Day 3, rather than saying she'll be gone for a couple of days? Could she be alerting her pack to an absence this coming Night? She does note that she hopes to have the time to do more, which could be taken as either a desire to participate in discussion or a desire to communicate with her pack. Perhaps just straws, but it's a distinct ping for me at this point. I believe Wilwa would be bold enough to make such a comment, being unable to communicate with her pack any other way at this point, and the specificity of her wording seems tricksy to me.

I agree with McCaber, I think this sounds a bit far-fetched. Makes me slightly wary of Sally, actually; this looks somewhat forced, like a wolf trying to come up with an original suspicion once realising that chasing Inzil twice in a row would come across too easy and bandwagony on its own.

Originally Posted by Sally

Meanwhile, my Nerwen radar is saying....nothing, which is distinctly unsettling. In my experience, my Nerwen radar always gives off the exact opposite impression, which is to say that I suspect her when she's innocent (especially when she's gifted) and ignore her when she's evil. I'd forgotten she was playing until I came across one of her posts, and I'll also note that she's not done nearly as much saccharine banter with Shasta as I would expect (though perhaps that's due to his own lack of participation?). I don't feel comfortable voting her toDay based solely on this, but it's something I must keep an eye on.

I agree with this bit, though - Nerwen manages to contribute a lot while remaining securely under my radar, which is a bit unnerving (sorry, bad pun). I don't think we should read too much into the absence of Nerwen-Shasta-banter, however, given that Shasta missed the entire Day 1 and thus the most optimal banter-time.