T-I-G CVIII: Wolves of the Galadhrim (Game Thread)

[Coppermirror]

Originally Posted by Farael

Now Coppermirror has replied after Lottie's reveal, and didn't say anything about being Nimrodel, which has me thinking there will be no more reveals toDay.

Nope, I'm definitely not Nimrodel. Sally also dreamed of you, so it should be impossible for you to be Nimrodel either.

I'm sorry for not having contributed more to the discussion so far. Problem is, there are so many potential variables.

Right now, I think it's most likely that if we have a wolf remaining, it's a cursed wolf, because what other explanation is there for the lack of a wolf kill on the Night that Aganzir died? And if we have a third wolf (however they got there), it makes sense that Nimrodel would be on the side of the village, because if not, that would be a vicious game balance. I'm going to discard the possibilty that the game is so unfair.

However, if Nimrodel were to be a third, cursed wolf, that wouldn't break the game. But it would mean she had three roles - lover, hunter, cursed. That's an awfully complicated thing to put in a game without explaining it to the village. Would Nerwen really do that?

And if there is no "wolf" any more but what we have is just Nimrodel's revenge on the Amroth voters, it's...a bit odd. I would have expected the game to end with the last wolf's death even if Nimrodel had a vendetta. And this would not explain why it is that there was no wolf kill on the Night that Agan died.

I haven't read through all of this page in detail, so I'll read through the posts toDay so far carefully and see if my opinion changes, but right now I'm inclined to trust Lottie and to look for a cursed wolf. Which means I'll go back to looking through the older posts for who I think the wolves might have targeted.

Edit: crossed with Rikae

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Coppermirror

However, if Nimrodel were to be a third, cursed wolf, that wouldn't break the game. But it would mean she had three roles - lover, hunter, cursed. That's an awfully complicated thing to put in a game without explaining it to the village. Would Nerwen really do that?

The way I see it, it wouldn't need to be any of those roles fully (she's not a normal hunter, for instance, as far as we already know) but a new role with similarities to those.
She's more of an assassin than a hunter anyway, seems like.

Originally Posted by Coppermirror

And if there is no "wolf" any more but what we have is just Nimrodel's revenge on the Amroth voters, it's...a bit odd. I would have expected the game to end with the last wolf's death even if Nimrodel had a vendetta. And this would not explain why it is that there was no wolf kill on the Night that Agan died.

The most likely scenario to me is that Loslote was the wolves' target (the narration suggests as much, and so does the fact that they could well have thought she was cursed).
Why she didn't die - well, either she was cursed, or maybe her one-time "assassination" ability also protects her. But wouldn't she know that?

What we do have is this: that Aganwolf brought up the possibility of a cursed, and that the following night, there was no wolf kill. I think not having a cursed is too much to hope for.

Edit: just realized as it was posting that I wanted to add: "Aganwolf brought up the possibility of a cursed that the wolves knew about"

[Rikae]

I'm going to have to vote soon. Is anyone around?

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Rikae

I'm going to have to vote soon. Is anyone around?

I'll be voting within the hour

[Farael]

Ok, time to vote. Here's my rationale:

1. If Lottie is evil, then we are kinda screwed. There's no way to know what her victory condition may be.
2. Assuming Lottie is good, and knowing that I am good (I know, some of you may disagree) that leaves Copper, Kit and Rikae
3. I distrusted Rikae all day, but she kept on answering and trying to figure things out... without defending herself "excessively". I know that's subjective, but feelings are most of what I have to go on with
4. That leaves Copper and Kit. I haven't had much of a chance to get a feel for either. If there WAS a cursed, and If I read things correctly, then Sally-seer dreamed of Copper the night there was no kill. However, we can't be certain who the wolves went for! It might've been Kit or Rikae for all I know
5. I think for now I will trust Sally's dream and, by exclusion, that leaves me with Kit for today. Tomorrow, if I'm still around, I will have to decide whether Rikae or Copper are the most likely remaining wolf
6. May Eru help us all

++Kitanna