Tol-in-Guarhoth CIX - Ten Year Anniversary Game: Dead Thread

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Hi!

I was honestly amused by all those proposed wolf pairings that but us into different packs. I mean, other than you stating that we were not after you were lynched, I thought we were pretty obvious.

I couldn't believe we weren't called out on it yet! Agan figured it out, right? She hinted about it awhile ago, but it got lost in some big posting bubble.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Loslote

I couldn't believe we weren't called out on it yet! Agan figured it out, right? She hinted about it awhile ago, but it got lost in some big posting bubble.

I did because eventually it was the only option that made sense! (I almost phrased something as boldly as "your only surviving pack member" some time before I told Mac to get a grip but I think I decided against it in the end). And you two have been able to PM the entire time, too!

I have a question though - is morm or Form one of yours? Because if yes I'd suggest a deal - we try to get the other pack lynched first (as much as it's possible) and give the last surviving Grip a chance to fight.

Or is there one? Is there something you'd like to tell us about Lalaith?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Yes, Boro! You're barking up the right tree!

Best use of reaction gif so far.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I have a question though - is morm or Form one of yours? Because if yes I'd suggest a deal - we try to get the other pack lynched first (as much as it's possible) and give the last surviving Grip a chance to fight.

Just a fair chance for that much info. I don't know.

I'd consider giving you the name if you offer to let her win.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Just a fair chance for that much info. I don't know.

I'd consider giving you the name if you offer to let her win.

Her chances will be fairer if the Fang pack doesn't get her first.

[Aganzir]

Be nice, Mac.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I have a question though - is morm or Form one of yours? Because if yes I'd suggest a deal - we try to get the other pack lynched first (as much as it's possible) and give the last surviving Grip a chance to fight.

If we have the word of a majority of the thread that they will focus attention on another known wolf instead of ours, we will consider it.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Loslote

If we have the word of a majority of the thread that they will focus attention on another known wolf instead of ours, we will consider it.

I'm willing to give my word. I won't promise not to empower votes against them if that's the only option available to an honest villager, but I can and will make it my priority to focus on the Fang to bring them down first.

I'm not asking you to reveal them if they're still hidden, but I'd like to know more about the potential build of the second best pack, the more effectively to kill them.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Is this what you are thinking:

If:
morm is a wolf give vote to Form or McCaber
Form is a wolf give vote to morm or Lommy
Kath is a wolf give vote to Eomer or Mith
Mith is a wolf give vote to Kath or Shasta
McCaber is a wolf give vote to Boro
No dreams on this list as wolf give vote to Sally

That spreads it out and I'm willing to give Boro the single vote as well as it's known that he's at least not a wolf though his motivations are unclear.

Whether they're in the same pack or not, it makes me laugh that this chart cross-empowers Tweedlemorm and Tweedleform.

[Rikae]

So (no wolves need to answer this) somebody was listing the likelihood of various wolf-pairings - what was there about the orm brothers?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Rikae

So (no wolves need to answer this) somebody was listing the likelihood of various wolf-pairings - what was there about the orm brothers?

My last version is here. Granted it's based on general impressions rather than in-depth analysis, and while nothing suggests the Orms can't be wolves together, I'll take my hat off to morm if he's in the Grip pack.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Conclusion: Dreamed the phantom, Firefoot, Lottie, Mac, Lommy, Eomer and Nilp. Last dream either Boro or Agan. I really wish I knew...

Not bad, Lommy. Not bad at all.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I'm willing to give my word. I won't promise not to empower votes against them if that's the only option available to an honest villager, but I can and will make it my priority to focus on the Fang to bring them down first.

Will this deal still be available if we wait until closer to the deadline (or, well, closer to when we start voting) to see if our packmate is in trouble toDay?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Will this deal still be available if we wait until closer to the deadline (or, well, closer to when we start voting) to see if our packmate is in trouble toDay?

I'm going to be occupied with friends for the next hours so it's not like I'll be able to do any analysis without getting yelled at. So in that sense yes, but do remember that the Fang will try to mess it up for you as well as in the Living thread, and they will know which Tweedle is in their pack and which isn't (unless they're both Fang). And also us Europeans can't wait till very close to the deadline.

[Nogrod]

Did you notice this?

Originally Posted by Mith #744

However I have had an idea that is either bonkers or genius and I am not sure which. We know that there must be a majority of innocents in the dead thread now and that they seem to be horrifically active. I know given my vehement opposition to rigged voting day one but if we arranged a tie either of the unknowns or even go the whole hog and all just self vote then the dead can either take out a known wolf or if they don't know any leave us all to bicker another day. Too much of a risk of something going wrong?

That would be just genious!

Sadly no one seems to be noticing it...

[Aganzir]

Another option if you want to keep quiet about identities: tell us which kills were the Fang.

And if morm is responsible for the dead Europeans after his reaction to my joke got me lynched I swear to god I will end him!!

[Rikae]

One thing: I thought Lottie's pack killed me (for obvious reasons) but also that Mac's wouldn't have (because I wouldn't have looked seerish to them), and that's why I, at least, figured they weren't in a pack together.

If they are in the same pack, they probably didn't kill me. Meaning Morm's pack (since Morm was an unlikely packmate of Mac's) did.

Now, I avoided voting Morm on my last Day, although I don't think I'd necessarily have looked seerish about it. I went after Lottie & Firefoot. I don't see anything that would have made Mith, Kath or McCaber concerned about me (unless, of course, they assumed I was a seer who'd dreamed of opposing wolf Lottie).

Any reasons for Mith, Kath or McCaber to kill Legate?

EDIT: My post 1086

Originally Posted by Rikae

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thinlómien
Rather:

If morm is innocent, give an extra vote to morm
If morm is guilty, give an extra vote to Sally
If Form is innocent, give an extra vote to Form
If Form is guilty, give an extra vote to Lommy
If Kath is innocent, give an extra vote to Kath
If Kath is guilty, give an extra vote to Eomer
If Mith is innocent, give an extra vote to Mith
If Mith is guilty, give an extra vote to Shasta
If McCaber is innocent, don't give an extra vote
If McCaber is guilty, give an extra vote to Boro
If the village is screwing up or there's something else alarming such as Boro being a wolf (we can clarify this the next Day if needs be), give an extra vote to McCaber

Well, that's tolerable, I hope it sticks.
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My post #1084 at 1:51

Originally Posted by me

Now, if one of them gets lynched toDay and we manage to send a message about the other, Boro can take him out toNight.

Who here will be able to vote at DL? Obviously me, tp, and the wolves (curse them).
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[Firefoot]

I'll be here at deadline. I'm not sure about Lottie's proposed deal though... weighing the likelihood of one pack taking out the other with there just being one night kill. On the other hand, if the unknown wolf is your packmate I would be willing to deal.