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Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-12-2015, 01:54 AM

So Mum's willing to be modfired in exchanged for lynching McCaber...

Moddwarf Kuru, will she be modfired toDAY (despite posting) if she doesn't vote?
McCaber, are you willing to go along with this? It seems a bum deal to have you help Sally stay alive only to throw you under the bus, but... on the bright side, the Dead thread is the real party. So you get to join them sooner.

So if this plan goes through, only Kath will be left of the unknown by the next DAY, which means if you're still playing then, you all know what to do.

If Mum votes last minute to save herself (highly unlikely, but I must consider all eventualities), y'all can just go after her the next DAY.

I'll be off in a few minutes, so this really is it from me for now.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-12-2015, 02:02 AM

Mith's thinking the same way I am (re the Dead's information and balance of power) and has been helpful to the village (suggesting a focus on the Living instead of the Dead for the information transfer plan), so I am inclined to think her innocent.

McCaber may have helped saved Sally, leading to my return, so I am also inclined to think him innocent.

Mum, why are you so keen to think Kath is innocent? I have

a) evidence from voting (She has been too keen/has voted Form twice.); and
b) evidence from Sally's survival/my return (A lot of people noticed that I am a Lover, and yet the Wolves didn't go after Sally. Only someone who couldn't pay much attention to the thread would miss the clues.)

Yes I know she's expressed interest in self-voting, but Form (known Wolf) has self-voted, so that alone doesn't say much.

Mithalwen · 06-12-2015, 02:31 AM

I said. It is because her reaction to my plan was that of an innocent eager to clear herself than a wolf interested in self preservation. Given that her absence made her a reasonable choice for a seer dream. Balance of probabilities ordo.. also that mad flurry of post seemed a bit conspicuous.

But I can't prove it. I can't prove I am innocent. But that is what seems overwhelmingly likely.

Lovely to have you back for a bit son but the antics were quite obvious and so McCaber's pseudo-helpful feint just seems opportunistic.

Mithalwen · 06-12-2015, 02:32 AM

But Form self voted when morm was already well in the lead and was not in the "hands of the dead" situation proposed.

Mithalwen · 06-12-2015, 05:11 AM

https://youtu.be/YawagQ6lLrA

Boromir88 · 06-12-2015, 06:41 AM

Agree with Mith on the self voting. With 5 dead wolves (3 by my hand thank you very much), the innocent dead could have trouble overcoming a united dead wolves and wind up lynching a known innocent (Shasta or sally).

You can lynch me today and insure you get rid of a ruthless killer, to leave yourself with 3 unknowns (1 wolf) and 2 known innocents. In which case you can still get the job done and win it. However a lone wolf can survive that scenario.

Or you can put your trust in me again tonight. That is to say...we lynch one of the unknowns, I kill one tonight. Leaving 1 unknown. If that unknown is still the last wolf, there's still the chance to lynch the next day (or lynch me if you think the wolf has been killed and the game is still not over). Because with the 3 deaths yesterday it's clear there's still 1 wolf amongst Mith, Kath, and McCaber

Boromir88 · 06-12-2015, 07:03 AM

The only reason I'm not dead yet, is because the lone wolf probably accurately judges they can get me lynched if they paint me as the only big bad evil left and to lynch me (which well, might expose the last wolf

).

But if my motivations are questionable, at least my actions and accomplishments, can buy me some gratitude and hopefully a stay of execution...right? I stuck to my word of following the dead's signal about FormWolf. I could have taken that information and said "you know what, forget it, I've killed enough wolves for these people already. They're on their own now."

Mithalwen · 06-12-2015, 07:06 AM

Thinking about the "outs". And what I should do.

We are only going to get opinion from the dead from now on. As a source of factual information that well is dry. Even if the Ranger was killed last night his or her return tomorrow can only tell us about the dead. Only the dead wolves know more and thy aren't likely to tell.

It all hangs on Boro really. and now I see he has posted .

Mithalwen · 06-12-2015, 07:17 AM

I don't think the village has the luxury of lynching Boro on spec. The wolf is only going to pick off known ordos rather than fellow suspects and you can't rely on the ranger picking the right one even if still alive. And you can't deny Boro has been most successful. Couldn't really have been more helpful.. if you want to kill him before you know it is necessary, when there is still a wolf there well you probably deserve to be eaten aux petits oignons...

Kuruharan · 06-12-2015, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Moddwarf Kuru, will she be modfired toDAY (despite posting) if she doesn't vote?

Yes, but she's voted now so it isn't an issue.

06-12-2015, 01:54 AM	#1
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	So Mum's willing to be modfired in exchanged for lynching McCaber... Moddwarf Kuru, will she be modfired toDAY (despite posting) if she doesn't vote? McCaber, are you willing to go along with this? It seems a bum deal to have you help Sally stay alive only to throw you under the bus, but... on the bright side, the Dead thread is the real party. So you get to join them sooner. So if this plan goes through, only Kath will be left of the unknown by the next DAY, which means if you're still playing then, you all know what to do. If Mum votes last minute to save herself (highly unlikely, but I must consider all eventualities), y'all can just go after her the next DAY. I'll be off in a few minutes, so this really is it from me for now. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-12-2015, 02:02 AM	#2
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Mith's thinking the same way I am (re the Dead's information and balance of power) and has been helpful to the village (suggesting a focus on the Living instead of the Dead for the information transfer plan), so I am inclined to think her innocent. McCaber may have helped saved Sally, leading to my return, so I am also inclined to think him innocent. Mum, why are you so keen to think Kath is innocent? I have a) evidence from voting (She has been too keen/has voted Form twice.); and b) evidence from Sally's survival/my return (A lot of people noticed that I am a Lover, and yet the Wolves didn't go after Sally. Only someone who couldn't pay much attention to the thread would miss the clues.) Yes I know she's expressed interest in self-voting, but Form (known Wolf) has self-voted, so that alone doesn't say much. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-12-2015, 02:31 AM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I said. It is because her reaction to my plan was that of an innocent eager to clear herself than a wolf interested in self preservation. Given that her absence made her a reasonable choice for a seer dream. Balance of probabilities ordo.. also that mad flurry of post seemed a bit conspicuous. But I can't prove it. I can't prove I am innocent. But that is what seems overwhelmingly likely. Lovely to have you back for a bit son but the antics were quite obvious and so McCaber's pseudo-helpful feint just seems opportunistic. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-12-2015, 02:32 AM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	But Form self voted when morm was already well in the lead and was not in the "hands of the dead" situation proposed. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-12-2015, 05:11 AM	#5
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	This and possibly an apocryphal Agincourt salute to the dead.. https://youtu.be/YawagQ6lLrA __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-12-2015, 06:41 AM	#6
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Agree with Mith on the self voting. With 5 dead wolves (3 by my hand thank you very much), the innocent dead could have trouble overcoming a united dead wolves and wind up lynching a known innocent (Shasta or sally). You can lynch me today and insure you get rid of a ruthless killer, to leave yourself with 3 unknowns (1 wolf) and 2 known innocents. In which case you can still get the job done and win it. However a lone wolf can survive that scenario. Or you can put your trust in me again tonight. That is to say...we lynch one of the unknowns, I kill one tonight. Leaving 1 unknown. If that unknown is still the last wolf, there's still the chance to lynch the next day (or lynch me if you think the wolf has been killed and the game is still not over). Because with the 3 deaths yesterday it's clear there's still 1 wolf amongst Mith, Kath, and McCaber __________________ Fenris Penguin

06-12-2015, 07:03 AM	#7
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	The only reason I'm not dead yet, is because the lone wolf probably accurately judges they can get me lynched if they paint me as the only big bad evil left and to lynch me (which well, might expose the last wolf ). But if my motivations are questionable, at least my actions and accomplishments, can buy me some gratitude and hopefully a stay of execution...right? I stuck to my word of following the dead's signal about FormWolf. I could have taken that information and said "you know what, forget it, I've killed enough wolves for these people already. They're on their own now." __________________ Fenris Penguin

06-12-2015, 07:06 AM	#8
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Thinking about the "outs". And what I should do. We are only going to get opinion from the dead from now on. As a source of factual information that well is dry. Even if the Ranger was killed last night his or her return tomorrow can only tell us about the dead. Only the dead wolves know more and thy aren't likely to tell. It all hangs on Boro really. and now I see he has posted . __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-12-2015, 07:17 AM	#9
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I don't think the village has the luxury of lynching Boro on spec. The wolf is only going to pick off known ordos rather than fellow suspects and you can't rely on the ranger picking the right one even if still alive. And you can't deny Boro has been most successful. Couldn't really have been more helpful.. if you want to kill him before you know it is necessary, when there is still a wolf there well you probably deserve to be eaten aux petits oignons... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

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