Tolkien Bio-pic

[Rhun charioteer]

Saw the movie, one recurring thought was “do all the people in the theatre understand the references this movie is making?”

Earendil is referenced, as is Beren and Luthien, same with Morgoth I believe.

In a lot of weird pseudo illusion scenes.

Regarding the catholic aspect one thing I did think was telling was that the movie didn’t show Tolkien insisting that Edith become catholic. Likely because that would not have gone over well with a modern audience.

As an aside as a Star Trek fan it was good to see Colm Meaney, Miles O Brien.

[William Cloud Hicklin]

Originally Posted by Rhun charioteer

As an aside as a Star Trek fan it was good to see Colm Meaney, Miles O Brien.

I like Colm Meany a lot too (also from the Alan Parker films)- but Fr. Francis wasn't Irish, he was born Welsh and raised in Spain.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

So my mom was saying that she wanted to see this movie with me when she came to visit. Now that she's here, I kind of want her to forget it. She always takes movies literally, even if they're not supposed to be accurate to the last detail.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by TheGreatElvenWarrior

So my mom was saying that she wanted to see this movie with me when she came to visit. Now that she's here, I kind of want her to forget it. She always takes movies literally, even if they're not supposed to be accurate to the last detail.

That would merely give you license to explain all the wrongness.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

That would merely give you license to explain all the wrongness.

Well, a license to complain is very tempting.

[Zigûr]

I saw it tonight. I wanted to see the new local documentary 2040 but it was sold out (seeing it tomorrow) and my father had been asking me if I wanted to see the bio-pic for weeks so I decided to just bite the bullet.

It was better than I expected, but I found it tepid, unfocused and lacking in atmosphere and dramatic thrust. To me it seemed as if the film didn't know if it wanted to be about his writing, his relationship with Edith, the war, or his friendship with GB Smith, and by trying to be about all of these things to equal degrees it didn't say much about any of them.

I suppose I appreciated that it didn't entirely gloss over his interest in philology and Germanic language, myth and folklore, but I feel as if that's not saying a great deal. My father claims that the wallpaper in his study at the end was William Morris's Strawberry Thief design, which if so is a nice touch (historically accurate or not), as I'm a quite strong proponent of the Morris-Tolkien connection.

Regardless I think anyone interested in this period of the Professor's life would be far better off simply reading John Garth's (in my opinion) excellent Tolkien and the Great War.

Oh, and also I still think that if they really had wanted to make an interesting film about his early life (and budget wasn't a concern) it would be a quasi-experimental film which cut (preferably without explanation) between his wartime experiences and an adaptation of The Fall of Gondolin.