Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXV: On the Borders of Mirkwood Planning Thread

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

In order to put some risk into the potential reward. When dead, the NW would not have to haunt someone every night. But if they choose to, regardless of the role, that player will be notified via PM from me that their sleep was haunted by the NW. This I can see would limit the power of the NW, that I feared could happen if allowed every night once a wolf was dead.

I really like the strategy in this option, because as Rikae said it could give the ordo "haunted" a new perspective. Also, there would be a risk for the NW to decide to haunt someone every single night. Of course the player can claim whatever they want, that they suffered from nightmares...etc It could be a bluff, a lie to attract the living wolves to kill them.. The potential is fascinating.

Actually, could probably include this possibility in Option 1 as well. That is the NW goes into effect once there are 2 dead wolves. They don't have to send in a haunt every night, but if they do the person, regardless of role will be notified?

I'd like some more feedback on this please.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Actually, could probably include this possibility in Option 1 as well. That is the NW goes into effect once there are 2 dead wolves. They don't have to send in a haunt every night, but if they do the person, regardless of role will be notified?

I'd like some more feedback on this please.

I haven't thought this through in a ton of detail, but at first glance, it seems like it would be pretty balanced in terms of not creating tons of known innocents.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Actually, could probably include this possibility in Option 1 as well. That is the NW goes into effect once there are 2 dead wolves. They don't have to send in a haunt every night, but if they do the person, regardless of role will be notified?

I'd like some more feedback on this please.

I see this being a debate between haunting to block a suspected gifted and haunting to mislead innocents into thinking they were selected because they were suspected as a gifted. And something that can be used by the NW to mislead the village, but also used by villagers to distract both dead and living wolves from the real gifteds. There is potential for it to balance out, but without testing it out it's hard to say which way it might topple. The big pro argument I have for revealing haunts is that it would make the game more fun for ordos, because it gives them more feedback / insight in the game, and more interaction with the special roles.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Boro

But I think given how difficult it could be for the dead to agree on a Medium, I would allow the dead retractable votes. And then just go by the B-W's rule. Once the majority threshold is hit, that person is automatically chosen as Medium for that Day. I would post in the Living thread once I see that happen. In the event the threshold is not met 2 hours prior to the DL, I would post in the Living thread there was too much division amongst the dead and they chose no Medium that day.

Thoughts on that?

That depends on whether you want to block the possibility of the living and dead using the empowered votes to send messages rather than just empower a vote. I could see them setting something up day one like "after the seer dies, this vote means X and that means Y", and that sort of thing tends to take excitement and suspense out of the game.
If you wait to reveal the empowered vote at deadline it could help avoid that situation.

[Macalaure]

Reporting for duty!

Is there a cobbler in this game? If not, there is now.

Originally Posted by Rikae

That depends on whether you want to block the possibility of the living and dead using the empowered votes to send messages rather than just empower a vote. I could see them setting something up day one like "after the seer dies, this vote means X and that means Y", and that sort of thing tends to take excitement and suspense out of the game.
If you wait to reveal the empowered vote at deadline it could help avoid that situation.

This was the first thing that came to my mind here. If the dead are able to communicate a name every day, regardless of what the intended function of it is, they are able to communicate the wolf dreams of a dead seer. The seer, in turn, does not have to worry about leaving hints about their dreams, making them so much harder to spot for the wolves.

What if the living aren't explicitly told who the medium is and instead only the vote count is revealed? Would that be better or worse?

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

What if the living aren't explicitly told who the medium is and instead only the vote count is revealed? Would that be better or worse?

That is something that hasn't been done before, if I remember right, and therefore I am all for it.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

This was the first thing that came to my mind here. If the dead are able to communicate a name every day, regardless of what the intended function of it is, they are able to communicate the wolf dreams of a dead seer. The seer, in turn, does not have to worry about leaving hints about their dreams, making them so much harder to spot for the wolves.

What if the living aren't explicitly told who the medium is and instead only the vote count is revealed? Would that be better or worse?

I don't think I've ever seen this idea before! I think this would serve the purpose of encouraging the Seer to leave hints; I don't know whether that's something we necessarily want to encourage, though. I think Brinn played an incredible Seer game in that new style last game, and I'd want to see a couple more tries at it before I decide whether it's unbalanced or whether Brinn was just that good.

[satansaloser2005]

Signing up now, will return at a later time with thoughts on concept, but this looks amazing!

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Signing up now, will return at a later time with thoughts on concept, but this looks amazing!

^What she said!