Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXV: On the Borders of Mirkwood - Game Thread

[Thinlómien]

Gonna have a look at this as the wolves are unlikely to go wolf-on-wolf toDay if they can avoid it. Ignoring Nilp because I have no reason to doubt his claim.

Brinn
- analyses Shasta as innocent based on Greenie's posts
- suspects Kath based on Legate's guilt
- explains Sally's posts to Rikae
- also thinks Rikae is leaning innocent based on Legate's posts
- lists Kath, Mac, Pitch and Sally as possible wolves
- asks Mac his interpretation about Greenie's dreams
- suspects Pitch, Kath, Mac and Sally based on what they said about Legate
- chooses to analyse Pitch. Comes out with the suspicion of Pitch/Kath or Pitch/Rikae

Rikae
- mentions Shasta and herself and Nilp as possible innocent dreams; vaguely exonerates Shasta based on this
- questions Sally aggressively
- thinks Kath looks innocent because a wolfpack with Kath would have killed Greenie sooner
- lists Mac, Pitch, Sally and Brinn as possible wolves based on what they said about Legate
- points out Brinn's boss lady moves and finds her conviction of Shasta's innocence and Kath's guilt worrisome

Sally
- suspects Kath
- wary of Rikae but not in a committed way
- side note: was confused about the beast hunter rules. Would a wolf really be?? And would a wolf Sally pretend to be? I think no and yes.

Mac
- undecided about Rikae and Sally based on Form interactions
- suspicious of Shasta and to a lesser degree of Pitch and Kath based on Form interactions
- trusting of Brinn based on Form interactions
- admits to hoping Shasta would not come out looking innocent in an analysis
- says Shasta and Rikae are possible innocent dreams of Greenie
- says Kath is a possible guilty dream of Greenie's but dismisses the thought immediately
- corrects Brinn misquoting him
- says if the wolf pack includes Kath then they treated her and Legate differently
- accuses Shasta of lack of attentivity/ reading comprehension (ok this sounds harsh and it wasn't, but that's the drift)

Kath
- doesn't understand why people (for example Brinn) keep associating her with Pitch
- thinks Mac, Sally and Rikae most likely co-wolves of Legate
- thinks Shasta and Pitch look like relatively plausible co-wolves of Legate
- thinks Brinn looks fairly innocent based on Legate-interactions
- discusses the numbers with Shasta

Pitch
- wary of Rikae's seer pretension
- criticises Mac's communication scheme

Shasta
- thinks Mac's suspicion of him looks fabricated, disagrees with him nitpicking over my post
- says Kath sounds like a defensive wolf
- thinks Kath might be the cobbler instead of Pitch
- originally likes Mac's voting model, then does a legate 180
- flipflops on whether Kath is a possible seer-dreamed wolf
- questions Rikae's suspicions of me
- disagrees with Rikae about Brinn looking innocent over Legate's posts

Ok this is end of page 14 and I've got to stop here, runing out of time. But everything after that should be in recent memory...

[Thinlómien]

Did I just say something about Sally-Shasta?

[satansaloser2005]

And with that I have to go for now.

[Thinlómien]

I'm very wary of Pitch who has scarcely taken any sides toDay in anything. Except what voting system makes sense or not. An innocent would at least be trying to find the wolves.


edit: xed with Rikae and Brinn

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Lommy

chooses to analyse Pitch. Comes out with the suspicion of Pitch/Kath or Pitch/Rikae

You misinterpreted as I said Pitch/Rikae were an unlikely combo.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

You misinterpreted as I said Pitch/Rikae were an unlikely combo.

Sorry! I trust you. To be fair, I was writing in a bit of a hurry. But that does not change my feeling that you have been pushing the lynch toDay in the direction of Mac/Kath/Pitch a bit too forcefully for it to sound innocent to me.

[Thinlómien]

I relate the most to Rikae toDay in the way they second guess thier own suspicions and all their different arguments don't add up to the same people being guilty/innocent. Therefore I trust them.


edit: xed with Pitch

[Rikae]

I'm willing to vote for Shasta or Sally but I don't want to risk spreading the votes too much.

[Brinniel]

With my two top suspects joining the Mac wagon, I have no desire to vote that way.

My preference is either Sally or Pitch.

[Thinlómien]

Sally / Shasta / Pitch ?

Uhhh Rikae and Brinn and Nilp. Does Mac really look so suspicious to you that he should reasonably garner such a big chunk of the village suspicion?

I am not convinced of Mac's innocence myself but I honestly cannot see where all this suspicion is coming from if it's genuine.


edit: xed with everyone

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Pitch

After you proposed a Brinn-Shasta-Sally pack a few posts earlier? Isn't this a bit much flipflopping even for you?

I meant I trust Brinn's correction of my words and I'm not gonna double check if I misinterpreted her.

I would prefer any of Sally / Shasta / Pitch over Mac but I'm not convinced they're ALL wolves so I would prefer to tread cautiously and think a tiny bit longer. It would be terrible if two were wolves and one innocent and we lynched the innocent one.


edit: xed with everyone after Brinn's last

[Macalaure]

Bad
Shasta

Maybe bad
Pitch, Sally (just jumped a category because of her vote)

Maaaaybe bad
Kath (looks foul but feels fair)

Probably not bad
Brinn, Lommy, Rikae (I'm agreeing with what Lommy said about Rikae)

Almost certainly not bad
Nilp

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Sorry! I trust you.

After you proposed a Brinn-Shasta-Sally pack a few posts earlier? Isn't this a bit much flipflopping even for you?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

After you proposed a Brinn-Shasta-Sally pack a few posts earlier? Isn't this a bit much flipflopping even for you?

Pitch is sounding so much better to me. I could have been wrong the entire time.

[satansaloser2005]

Wasn't sure I'd actually GET my break, but I did. Whee!

Originally Posted by Brinniel

With my two top suspects joining the Mac wagon, I have no desire to vote that way.

My preference is either Sally or Pitch.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Pitch is sounding so much better to me. I could have been wrong the entire time.

These two back to back make me feel....really icky.


Also, just to throw it out there, lynching me would probably be game over. I can't take anyone with me this time (*cough* Lommy *cough*), so maybe let's not just take a chance on me?



x'd since what I quoted

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Lommy

- says Shasta and Rikae are possible innocent dreams of Greenie
- says Kath is a possible guilty dream of Greenie's but dismisses the thought immediately

Just quick since I feel misrepresented here.

Yes, Shasta and Rikae are possible, but far less likely than Lottie and Nilp.
And I was going along posts as I wrote mine, and for a while Kath looked like a possible dreamt-of wolf, but as I continued I started to find it unlikely.

[Macalaure]

I was going to vote for Shasta, who is suspected by some but not all, but now you're forcing me into self-preservation mode and I don't like it.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Just quick since I feel misrepresented here.

Yes, Shasta and Rikae are possible, but far less likely than Lottie and Nilp.
And I was going along posts as I wrote mine, and for a while Kath looked like a possible dreamt-of wolf, but as I continued I started to find it unlikely.

Sorry if I summarised it badly, what you say is how I read it. But I left Lottie and Nilp out of the summary bc they're not relevant right now.

[Thinlómien]

I am suspicious of Sally too, especially after that vote, but - would a wolf really not know the beast hunter cannot make another trap?

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Any innocent should reconsider their opinions toDay because there might not be toMorrow.

What do you mean there might not be toMorrow? Doing the math, there will definitely be a toMorrow. Yes, I get that it's critical we get a wolf toDay, but it's not necessarily all over yet if we make another mistake. We still have a ranger and toMorrow's medium vote.

Originally Posted by Lommy

But that does not change my feeling that you have been pushing the lynch toDay in the direction of Mac/Kath/Pitch a bit too forcefully for it to sound innocent to me.

Actually, I suspect Sally more than Mac at this point.

With Pitch, so many players have suspected him then discarded him as the cobbler. What if he is a wolf masquerading as a cobbler?

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Sorry if I summarised it badly, what you say is how I read it. But I left Lottie and Nilp out of the summary bc they're not relevant right now.

No worries