Wargs v.s. Wolves - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Arwen Imladris · 07-26-2002, 02:06 PM

What is the difference between Wargs and Wolves? Or are they the same? Which one is stronger? Would win in a fight?

There, I think that are all of my questions on wolves and Wargs! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

The Green Ringwraith · 07-26-2002, 02:38 PM

I am a wolf fanatic, and as far as I'm concerened, Wargs are Werewolf-like and wolves are more Wolf-dog across the street-like. But they're all kewl to me! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Sarin Elfarmour · 07-26-2002, 02:43 PM

Wargs were probably larger because orcs would ride on them like horses, they might also have been trained, were as the ordinary wolf was wild

Aldagrim Proudfoot · 07-27-2002, 08:21 AM

They were probably also a little smarter because Gandalf understood their language.

Fingolfin of the Noldor · 07-27-2002, 08:30 AM

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‡The word Warg used in The Hobbit and the L.R. for an evil breed of (demonic) wolves is not supposed to be A-S specifically, and is given prim. Germanic form as representing the noun common to the Northmen of these creatures. -note to draft letter #297 pg381 The Letters of JRR Tolkien

littlemanpoet · 07-27-2002, 08:54 AM

Wargs as evil/demonic is the key difference. They had evil fear (that's fay-ahr, elvish for 'spirit') dwelling in them. These fe-ar are what gave them their intelligence, and their increased size probably came along with the evil spirits, from Morgoth in the First Age.
-lmp

Arwen Imladris · 07-27-2002, 02:00 PM

O.K. thanks guys!

But looking back again......

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a meeting place for the wolves... in the middle of the circle was a great grey wolf... in the dread ful language or the Wargs..

It seems that they are interchangeable.

There is also proof that wargs were just evil wolves.

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But even the wild Wargs (for so the evil wolves over the Edge of the Wild were named)..

What do you think?

Fingolfin of the Noldor · 07-27-2002, 03:03 PM

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It seems that they are interchangeable.

Well...while 'wargs' are certainly wolves wolves are not necessarily 'wargs'.

Sarin Elfarmour · 07-27-2002, 07:24 PM

That sounds very confusing but i get it anyway, i agree

littlemanpoet · 07-28-2002, 04:07 PM

Ya know, it always bugged me that there is no such thing as a good wolf in LotR. I realize that Tolkien wrote out of the Northern legends and myths, in which wolves were commonly regarded as enemies, but I still wish....

But I agree that Wargs were wolves - they were just evil wolves.

lmp

Aragost · 07-28-2002, 05:44 PM

the wargs were on the west side of the misty mountains and bigger and smarter.wolves were on the eastside

Anorien · 07-28-2002, 11:58 PM

ok, i know this! Great Warg told me. The wolves have no side, they are just normal dumb creatures. The wargs are on the evil side, and they are a lot smarter. Clear?

Arwen Imladris · 08-05-2002, 03:14 PM

O.K. I think I understand. Thanks all!

07-26-2002, 02:06 PM	#1
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Wargs v.s. Wolves What is the difference between Wargs and Wolves? Or are they the same? Which one is stronger? Would win in a fight? There, I think that are all of my questions on wolves and Wargs! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

07-26-2002, 02:43 PM	#3
Sarin Elfarmour Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 43	Wargs were probably larger because orcs would ride on them like horses, they might also have been trained, were as the ordinary wolf was wild __________________ Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-menu

07-27-2002, 08:21 AM	#4
Aldagrim Proudfoot Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hobbiton Posts: 328	They were probably also a little smarter because Gandalf understood their language. __________________ I do not suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it!

07-27-2002, 07:24 PM	#9
Sarin Elfarmour Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 43	That sounds very confusing but i get it anyway, i agree __________________ Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-menu

07-28-2002, 05:44 PM	#11
Aragost Wight Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Arthedain Posts: 137	the wargs were on the west side of the misty mountains and bigger and smarter.wolves were on the eastside __________________ Where there's a whip there's a will

07-26-2002, 02:38 PM	#2
The Green Ringwraith Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: On the edge of the world I'll roam and the home of the wolf will be my home. Posts: 77	I am a wolf fanatic, and as far as I'm concerened, Wargs are Werewolf-like and wolves are more Wolf-dog across the street-like. But they're all kewl to me! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ -What is it about the Green ones?- "...they fell under the dominion of the One, and they became Ringwraiths... This one just got a little too gamma ray happy."

07-27-2002, 08:54 AM	#6
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Wargs as evil/demonic is the key difference. They had evil fear (that's fay-ahr, elvish for 'spirit') dwelling in them. These fe-ar are what gave them their intelligence, and their increased size probably came along with the evil spirits, from Morgoth in the First Age. -lmp

07-28-2002, 04:07 PM	#10
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Ya know, it always bugged me that there is no such thing as a good wolf in LotR. I realize that Tolkien wrote out of the Northern legends and myths, in which wolves were commonly regarded as enemies, but I still wish.... But I agree that Wargs were wolves - they were just evil wolves. lmp

07-28-2002, 11:58 PM	#12
Anorien Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Old Navy of Rohan Posts: 138	ok, i know this! Great Warg told me. The wolves have no side, they are just normal dumb creatures. The wargs are on the evil side, and they are a lot smarter. Clear? __________________ FRODO: all low and retarded Oh Mr. Frodo, do you have any more food? Here eat mine, I’m so fat. How about I carry the ring for you. It’s soooo pretty, I mean heavy! SAM: Why you little-! FRODO: You asked for it!

08-05-2002, 03:14 PM	#13
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	O.K. I think I understand. Thanks all! __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

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