Ponderings about the fates of the Noldor, Galadriel and what it all meant.

[Cazoz]

Gil-Galad's father according to Silm was Fingon.

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No, the line of Turgon (and thus Fingolfin) continued into the fourth age as well. Turgon's daughter was Idril. Her son was Earendil, the father of Elrond. So the line of Telcontar merged the lines of Fingolfin and Finarfin.

Bugger, I know! I knew I'd make a mistake or two, trying to think about three ages worth of stuff. Forgive me.

I had read a few comments in various threads about Galadriel as a parallel for the Virgin Mary. Obviously it wasn't too literal; her not being a virgin and all! But her untainted moral lifestyle and simply the symbolism of the 'white' ,the 'mother' and the link to the West (loosely heaven) can compound this, I believe.

Not everybody died, in fact a princess of the Noldor who was involved in the rebellion didn´t. This is a powerful sign, for it suggest hope as well as the forgiving of the Valar. Galadriel
was involved in the rebellion, but she never let blood touch her hands (as far as we know). The Valar and Eru let her live to show that they weren´t totally unforgiving, and tha the War of the Jewels wasn´t totally futile.

This is interesting Manardariel. You use the words 'Let her live', and I an unclear about to what extent you are emphasising the 'let' part. Do you consider Galadriel's survival to be a gift granted from the Powers, as opposed to something that came naturally? Thus, do you see her as being almost proactively kept alive after all the deeds, them having judged her merits? Would you say they actively considered Galadriel and contemplated her individual actions and involvements?

This makes me think about how detailed the counsels of the Valar were, beyond those that we know about. I wonder how 'micro' a scale Eru and the Valar examined and followed each Elf, and Men and Hobbits furthermore, throughout history. It's interesting to consider; for instance were they aware of (and did they deem important) the deeds of the (arguably) secondary characters in the War of the Ring, such as Merry, Pippin, Faramir, Eomer and so on? How concerned were they with the affairs of mortals in general, with the exception of those whose deeds would have great impacts upon the future, such as Frodo and Aragorn? How intricate would their interest have been, or would they have primarily only been concerned about the end, and not the trivialities of the means?

What do you do for a living?

I'm actually spending a year travelling, having graduated from uni last May. I'm currently working as an editor for *insert high-profile book publishers* in Melbourne, but moving on soon up the centre of Australia. The 'being paid for this' comment was purely metaphorical; I meant spending time on the BD whilst I should be working! I'm not actually being paid to post on the BD, that'd be an awesome job though!