gandalf and sarumon

[Keneldil the Polka-dot]

The most revealing fallen/failed istari is Radagast.

I have never seen Radagast referred to as failed or fallen, probably because I’m relatively new to the Downs. How is Radagast a failed Istari?

Also, the part about the Blue Istari becoming a Balrog…never heard that one before either. Could you expand on how you came to that?

I have an idea about why Saruman may have started out “greater” and ended up “lesser” than Gandalf:

Morgoth’s power was diminished by his envy and hatred. Saruman, from the time the Istari were appointed, had envy toward Gandalf, which turned to hatred. Couldn’t his power been reduced over time by his envy and hate like Morgoth’s was, to the point of becoming less than Gandalf’s?

[ November 21, 2002: Message edited by: Keneldil the Polka-dot ]