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jallanite · 06-18-2001, 07:16 PM

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Re: Celebrimbor

In The War of the Jewels, in the chapter "Maeglin", Tolkien explains why Curufin and Celegorm did not send word of Aredhel to Gondolin:<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Now they could only get word to Gondolin by facing evil perils, which only her rescue from misery would have seemed to them sufficient reason. Moreover while she was happy and at ease they delayed*** believing that even if Turgon was informed he would only have demanded her return (since his permission to her to depart was void after her disobedience). But before they had made up their minds she was again lost, and it was a long time before they knew or even guessed what had become of her. This they did eventually when Areðel again began to visit the borders of Nan Elmoth, or stray beyond them. For they held a constant watch on Nan Elmoth, mistrusting the doings and goings of Eöl, and their scouts espied her at times riding in the sunlight by the wood-eaves. But now it seemed too late [to] them; and thy all [ ? read they thought that all] they would get for any peril would be the rebuke or wrath of Turgon. And this [they] wished in no way to receive.<hr></blockquote>That Curufin and Celegorm did not know Gondolin's location or approach is not even considered. They knew it. They could have sent messengers to Turgon. It was presumably known by the other sons of Fëanor, and quite possibly by Curufin's son Celebrimbor.

So Celebrimbor might have come to Gondolin on his own. Whether he did ...

I would rather picture Celebrimbor in Morgoth's mines than at the Mouth of Sirion, as otherwise one expects some word of what part he plays in the attacks of the sons of Fëanor. Of course nothing is told either way, and there is no necessity that anything be told.

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06-18-2001, 07:16 PM	#27
jallanite Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 479	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pile o' Bones Posts: 22</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Celebrimbor In The War of the Jewels, in the chapter "Maeglin", Tolkien explains why Curufin and Celegorm did not send word of Aredhel to Gondolin:<blockquote>*Quote:<hr> Now they could only get word to Gondolin by facing evil perils, which only her rescue from misery would have seemed to them sufficient reason. Moreover while she was happy and at ease they delayed** believing that even if Turgon was informed he would only have demanded her return (since his permission to her to depart was void after her disobedience). But before they had made up their minds she was again lost, and it was a long time before they knew or even guessed what had become of her. This they did eventually when Areðel again began to visit the borders of Nan Elmoth, or stray beyond them. For they held a constant watch on Nan Elmoth, mistrusting the doings and goings of Eöl, and their scouts espied her at times riding in the sunlight by the wood-eaves. But now it seemed too late [to] them; and thy all [ ? read they thought that all] they would get for any peril would be the rebuke or wrath of Turgon. And this [they] wished in no way to receive.<hr></blockquote>That Curufin and Celegorm did not know Gondolin's location or approach is not even considered. They knew it. They could have sent messengers to Turgon. It was presumably known by the other sons of Fëanor, and quite possibly by Curufin's son Celebrimbor. So Celebrimbor might have come to Gondolin on his own. Whether he did ... I would rather picture Celebrimbor in Morgoth's mines than at the Mouth of Sirion, as otherwise one expects some word of what part he plays in the attacks of the sons of Fëanor. Of course nothing is told either way, and there is no necessity that anything be told. </p>