*Feanor,Turin and the Second Prophecy of Mandos* - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

**lindil** · 06-06-2001, 05:41 AM

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Re: Feanor,Turin and the Second Prophecy of Mandos

I agree in that it would no longer be possible to use it w/out comment in the light of the Valaquenta colophon.

I see no problem w/ using some of the Athrabeth notes [or others dealing w/ the numenorean-elvish divergant traditions] to preface the last few paragraphs as numenorean.

I noted yesterday that the same 3 paragraphs were again used in V in the last ending earendil section. so it can be dated as acceptable text by JRRT at roughly the same period as the final prose Beren and Luthien.
pretty decent pedigree, esp w/ he clause relating to numnor thrown in .
now the only question would be where in the covers of a 'Silmarillion ' it would go. At the end of the tale of Earendil and the destruction of Angband, prior to Numenor and the 3rd age material or at the end of the 3rd age and the rings of power?

Lindil is oft found on posting on the Silmarillion Project at the Barrowdowns and working on yet a 2nd new Elven/Christian discussion board<a href="http://pub72.ezboard.com/bosanwe" >Osanwe</a> 'The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night, and awaken early before dawn- exchanging lore and wisdom such as they possessed , so that they should not fall back into the mean and low estate of those , who never knew or more sadly still, had indeed rebelled against the Light.' </p>

06-06-2001, 05:41 AM	#4
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Seeker of the Straight Path Posts: 619</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Feanor,Turin and the Second Prophecy of Mandos I agree in that it would no longer be possible to use it w/out comment in the light of the Valaquenta colophon. I see no problem w/ using some of the Athrabeth notes [or others dealing w/ the numenorean-elvish divergant traditions] to preface the last few paragraphs as numenorean. I noted yesterday that the same 3 paragraphs were again used in V in the last ending earendil section. so it can be dated as acceptable text by JRRT at roughly the same period as the final prose Beren and Luthien. pretty decent pedigree, esp w/ he clause relating to numnor thrown in . now the only question would be where in the covers of a 'Silmarillion ' it would go. At the end of the tale of Earendil and the destruction of Angband, prior to Numenor and the 3rd age material or at the end of the 3rd age and the rings of power? Lindil is oft found on posting on the Silmarillion Project at the Barrowdowns and working on yet a 2nd new Elven/Christian discussion board<a href="http://pub72.ezboard.com/bosanwe" >Osanwe</a> 'The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night, and awaken early before dawn- exchanging lore and wisdom such as they possessed , so that they should not fall back into the mean and low estate of those , who never knew or more sadly still, had indeed rebelled against the Light.' </p> __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.