* An unofficial New Silmarillion Outline * - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Michael Martinez · 03-27-2001, 08:30 PM

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Re: Re: Outline

Having just come off a thread where I've lost my temper at Tar-Elenion once again, I thought Lindil was looking a little defensive and I thought some encouragement would be appreciated.

I think Lindil has a pretty good idea of what he's biting off. I've discussed some of the challenges in private email with him.

However, since Christopher Tolkien used the "Narn" to write "Of Turin Turambar", I don't see why Lindil couldn't? "Quenta Silmarillion" grew in size and scope each time Tolkien revisited it. And though "The Wanderings of Hurin" was not used by Christopher Tolkien, I think it would have served as a fine blueprint for the text which should have been.

The need to complete the narrative, however, doesn't mean one shouldn't utilize the later texts.

Technically, a canon defines what is authentic. If I were to compose a definition of canon for the Silmarillion texts I would indeed include the later texts, provided they were consistent with the general story. But even defining a canon doesn't satisfy the desire to see the entire story told. So, if one is going to retell the story, then why not just go ahead and retell it?

This project isn't going to win any recognition from the Tolkien Estate, and I'm sure if they knew about it they would be quite displeased. But the story has ignited people's imaginations. Why shouldn't those imaginations be encouraged?

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03-27-2001, 08:30 PM	#12
Michael Martinez Animated Skeleton Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 48	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Animated Skeleton Posts: 36</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Re: Outline Having just come off a thread where I've lost my temper at Tar-Elenion once again, I thought Lindil was looking a little defensive and I thought some encouragement would be appreciated. I think Lindil has a pretty good idea of what he's biting off. I've discussed some of the challenges in private email with him. However, since Christopher Tolkien used the "Narn" to write "Of Turin Turambar", I don't see why Lindil couldn't? "Quenta Silmarillion" grew in size and scope each time Tolkien revisited it. And though "The Wanderings of Hurin" was not used by Christopher Tolkien, I think it would have served as a fine blueprint for the text which should have been. The need to complete the narrative, however, doesn't mean one shouldn't utilize the later texts. Technically, a canon defines what is authentic. If I were to compose a definition of canon for the Silmarillion texts I would indeed include the later texts, provided they were consistent with the general story. But even defining a canon doesn't satisfy the desire to see the entire story told. So, if one is going to retell the story, then why not just go ahead and retell it? This project isn't going to win any recognition from the Tolkien Estate, and I'm sure if they knew about it they would be quite displeased. But the story has ignited people's imaginations. Why shouldn't those imaginations be encouraged? http://www.xenite.org/Xenite.Org: Science Fiction and Fantasy</a> http://www.xenite.org/faqs/lotr_movie/Lord of the Rings Movie news</a> http://www.xenite.org/xor/home.shtml1500+ Hercules/Xena Links</a> http://www.xenite.org/books/visualiz...dle-earth.htmlVisualizing Middle-earth, a book on Tolkien</a> http://www.xenite.org/special_events/vicky_shaffer.htmlVicky Shaffer: Monster or mother? Is Brianna in any danger?</a> </p>