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Bob Wehadababyitsaboy · 09-02-2001, 03:16 AM

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Re: Many Many Balrogs

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Orcs are beasts and Balrogs corrupted Maiar.
This seems clear and complete enough, at least in this sentence and at this time.<hr></blockquote>

Are you attempting to have me enter into a debate on this?
It’ll be a long wait for you if that is your objective.

As FYI:
You would be wise to think about this quote of all Balrogs as Maiar more carefully.
I have already advised that Orc origins and Balrog origins are inescapably linked [when one changes, so does the other---always did] from beginning to end of the text history.

As for other Ealar, you might want to examine The Watchers of Cirith Ungol, Pukel-men [see The Faithful Stone], and Trolls, unless you think that ‘primitive human types’ refers to Apes who turn to stone. But then, Elves would have defined Trolls as Orcs too, so you won't get ahead there much---or will you?

I notice you also seem to be confused as to what a fea is defined as. Incarnation isn't a quantity that identifies it. Nor is it with Ealar. They can be either incarnate or not.

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09-02-2001, 03:16 AM	#10
Bob Wehadababyitsaboy Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 26	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Animated Skeleton Posts: 26</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Many Many Balrogs <blockquote>*Quote:*<hr> Orcs are beasts and Balrogs corrupted Maiar. This seems clear and complete enough, at least in this sentence and at this time.<hr></blockquote> Are you attempting to have me enter into a debate on this? It’ll be a long wait for you if that is your objective. As FYI: You would be wise to think about this quote of all Balrogs as Maiar more carefully. I have already advised that Orc origins and Balrog origins are inescapably linked [when one changes, so does the other---always did] from beginning to end of the text history. As for other Ealar, you might want to examine The Watchers of Cirith Ungol, Pukel-men [see The Faithful Stone], and Trolls, unless you think that ‘primitive human types’ refers to Apes who turn to stone. But then, Elves would have defined Trolls as Orcs too, so you won't get ahead there much---or will you? I notice you also seem to be confused as to what a fea is defined as. Incarnation isn't a quantity that identifies it. Nor is it with Ealar. They can be either incarnate or not. </p>