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***Mithadan*** · 10-09-2000, 06:07 AM

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Re: In case you didn't know...

Mr. Underhill - Clearly, when he began accepting employment applications from orcs, Saruman had gone bad. But while he may have been foolish, he was not stupid. Its likely that he began planning to become mini-Sauron for a while before he began openly recruiting thugs. When did he first look in the palantir? Another possible date is when he claimed Isengard for his own.

Vefantur - Neat nick! The name Curumo appears in UT. When LoTR was written, JRRT's views on Quenya and Sindarin were not fixed and later changed. Welcome by the way! Nice point re: concealing Ring info. But couldn't he have been concealing Ring info out of fear of disapproval from the Council, rather than true evil?

--Mithadan--
"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

10-09-2000, 06:07 AM	#17
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,396	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight Posts: 170</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: In case you didn't know... Mr. Underhill - Clearly, when he began accepting employment applications from orcs, Saruman had gone bad. But while he may have been foolish, he was not stupid. Its likely that he began planning to become mini-Sauron for a while before he began openly recruiting thugs. When did he first look in the palantir? Another possible date is when he claimed Isengard for his own. Vefantur - Neat nick! The name Curumo appears in UT. When LoTR was written, JRRT's views on Quenya and Sindarin were not fixed and later changed. Welcome by the way! Nice point re: concealing Ring info. But couldn't he have been concealing Ring info out of fear of disapproval from the Council, rather than true evil? --Mithadan-- "The Silmarils with living light were kindled clear, and waxing bright shone like stars that in the North above the reek of earth leap forth." </p> __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.