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Old 01-14-2003, 11:18 AM   #10
Aratlithiel
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A little correction Aritlithiel on the kindredsthat went over the sea, there were infact 3, the Teleri, Vanyar and Noldor.
Sorry to nitpick, Aule, but I'm a little anal about this stuff. The Quendi were divided into two main branches: the lesser East-elves (or Wood-elves) and the West-elves (or Eldar). The Eldar were the Three Kindreds who were summoned to dwell in Eldamar, but only two of them did so. The Sindar (or Grey-elves) stayed in Middle-earth. In this way, the race of Elves became divided into three: Wood-elves, Grey-elves (Sindar) and High-elves (the name for those Eldar who went to Eldamar). When some of these High-elves left during the rebellion, they became known as Noldor - Galadriel and Glorfindel were two of these.

The First Kindred is not named at all. They still dwell in the Blessed Realm and have never left.

The Second Kindred is the Noldor.

The Third Kindred is the Sindar.

Elrond is descended from Luthien who was a Sindar. Since the Sindar did not return to Eldamar at the summons, they are not considered High-elves. However, the fact that Luthien is descended from Thingol (Grey-elven King) and Lady Melian (one of the Valar) you would think he would get some kind of special dispensation or something.

Sheesh! This Elf stuff can get confusing!
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