Faramir and Eowyn: Was Tolkien just pairing off? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lush · 09-22-2002, 03:40 PM

Patronizing? Who? Moi?

I guess you must have missed the little [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] next to my response.

mark12_30, also known as Helen, brings up a very good point in saying that Eowyn was a different woman after her experience with the Witchking. Not only does she tell Faramir that she wants to be a healer, she also states that she no longer wishes to be Queen. I guess seeing death eye-to-eye helped her get her priorities in order pretty quickly. Plus, I think that Faramir may have been a little cuter that Aragorn. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

As for the whole issue of "nice" men vs. "egotistical" men, I don't believe that the two are mutually exclusive. I am sorry for what you went through, Tirned. At the same time, I don't believe in having a relationship with a man that you are not attracted to.

Marrying a man that you can barely bring yourself to kiss is doing a disservice to both yourself, and to him. The Frog Prince and Gawaine, I believe, are more symbolic of a fear of intimacy (well, at least the first one certainly is) than actual overcoming of your mate's unattractiveness.

Tirned, I don't know anything about your present situation, but I am sure that you know that (as Blake taught us) even though innocence gives way to experience, it doesn't mean that the world has to end. You've been burned, so was I, so was Eowyn, and so was anyone who has done any living at all. These things happen for a reason, to teach us about ourselves just as much as about the world in general, and regretting them is a waste of time. I think.

Well, now that I've completely derailed this very cool thread, is there anything in regards to Eowyn and Faramir that we've missed?

09-22-2002, 03:40 PM	#19
Lush Fair and Cold Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the big onion Posts: 1,770	Patronizing? Who? Moi? I guess you must have missed the little [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] next to my response. mark12_30, also known as Helen, brings up a very good point in saying that Eowyn was a different woman after her experience with the Witchking. Not only does she tell Faramir that she wants to be a healer, she also states that she no longer wishes to be Queen. I guess seeing death eye-to-eye helped her get her priorities in order pretty quickly. Plus, I think that Faramir may have been a little cuter that Aragorn. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] As for the whole issue of "nice" men vs. "egotistical" men, I don't believe that the two are mutually exclusive. I am sorry for what you went through, Tirned. At the same time, I don't believe in having a relationship with a man that you are not attracted to. Marrying a man that you can barely bring yourself to kiss is doing a disservice to both yourself, and to him. The Frog Prince and Gawaine, I believe, are more symbolic of a fear of intimacy (well, at least the first one certainly is) than actual overcoming of your mate's unattractiveness. Tirned, I don't know anything about your present situation, but I am sure that you know that (as Blake taught us) even though innocence gives way to experience, it doesn't mean that the world has to end. You've been burned, so was I, so was Eowyn, and so was anyone who has done any living at all. These things happen for a reason, to teach us about ourselves just as much as about the world in general, and regretting them is a waste of time. I think. Well, now that I've completely derailed this very cool thread, is there anything in regards to Eowyn and Faramir that we've missed? __________________ ~The beginning is the word and the end is silence. And in between are all the stories. This is one of mine~