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Niluial · 06-01-2003, 08:38 PM

Lol I said "Llie n'vanima ar' lle atara lanneina" (You're ugly and your mother dresses you funny) to my Professor yesterday.. he just looked at me and started laughing… I hope my Professor is not a Tolkien fan.. or I’m in trouble. Ok, is there an Professor here who teaches a girl named Kyla McAllen.. in Sydney [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]…

[ June 02, 2003: Message edited by: Niluial ]

the guy who be short · 06-02-2003, 11:22 AM

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Llie n'vanima ar' lle atara lanneina

Uh oh! I sense grey elvish! I'm no expert in elvish, but atar means dad, and as far as i know, ar doesnt need an apostrophe after it.

Sapphire_Flame · 06-02-2003, 12:37 PM

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Uh oh! I sense grey elvish!

Exactly, guy. That's why I posted the REAL way to say that earlier. Check near the bottom of the first page. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

the guy who be short · 06-02-2003, 02:03 PM

Thanks, sapphireflame. I already saw that actually. Doesnt n'vanima mean not beautiful rather than ugly?

VanimaEdhel · 06-02-2003, 02:36 PM

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n'vanima

It might not even mean that. I thought that "u" was also the Quenya "not" or "dark". I could be wrong, of course, as I often am.

Sapphire_Flame · 06-02-2003, 06:14 PM

U- can be a prefix in Sindarin, meaning "not" or implying a negative. (i.e. u-bedo = don't talk)

the guy who be short · 06-03-2003, 12:29 PM

Well, n- is a common European prefix meaning not. So, perhaps this language uses it because Europeans (and Americans) will be comfortable with it.
Damn grey company elvish. Or, as i call it, Grelvish.

Elentarimir · 06-08-2003, 06:41 AM

Hey, I like grey Elvish! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

the guy who be short · 06-09-2003, 11:37 AM

I meant grey company elvish! Not sindarin, obviously.

Feared Half-Elf · 06-12-2003, 12:45 PM

EVERYONE'S SAID ALL MINE!!!! PLUS A FEW!!!!!!

Finwe · 06-13-2003, 09:37 PM

I really think we ought to alert people somehow about Grelvish. It's starting to get very annoying.

I think the proper term is uvanima, because Morgoth's creations were called Uvanimar, or Ugly Ones (because they were monsters), and the singular of that term is "Uvanima." The prefix "u-" also means "not" or "opposite" in Quenya.

the guy who be short · 06-14-2003, 03:14 AM

how do you say "you are" in quenya. Im taking lessons, but i havent done so for ages, and also pronouns is something like lesson 11! i know "na" means "is" (or "nar" plural) but how do you say "you are"? just thought it would be easier asking you people than doing about 15 lessons.

Tarien Ithil · 06-15-2003, 01:21 AM

Hey guy who be short!

I don't think there is a 'you are' in Quenya. If you want to say 'you are', you say 'lle'.

Hope that helped!

~Tarien

P.S Nil, did you really say that to your professor?? [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]
I said "Auta Miqula Orqu" to my Physics teacher last week when she ticked me off.
She scolded me for speaking rubbish! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

the guy who be short · 06-15-2003, 03:26 AM

Isnt lle Sindarin? Well, i dont suppose it particularly matters, nobody can tell anyway. Or i could just say (insert name here) na uvanima.

Finwe · 06-15-2003, 09:28 PM

It would have to be "na" (with an accent on the "a") because it is a singular "you." If it were plural, then it would be "nar." The full phrase is:

"Nal(yë) (whatever phrase that you want to add in)"

barandilwen · 06-16-2003, 03:59 AM

i was wonderin were you learn more of these stuff cos it really rocks! i only know a few of elvish, sindarin and quenya... can you recomend any sites?

Tarien Ithil · 06-16-2003, 09:09 AM

Guy,

could I just say (insert name here) na uvamnima

Hmmm..yes 'lle' is Sindarin. Did you wnat it in Quenya?
"na uvanima" is correct, I should think. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Sorry if I'm confusing you. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

BTW, barandilwen, go to
www.grey-company.org (although this isn't exactly correct Elvish)
www.hot-elf.com

Ask the others - they can recommend some more sites. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Finwe · 06-16-2003, 09:24 AM

I do NOT recommend using the Grey Elvish site. It will just confuse you. The best site to learn true Elvish is Ardalambion (www.ardalambion.com). That is the only site that I will trust.

Sapphire_Flame · 06-16-2003, 11:07 AM

Right on, Finwe. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Yeah, I don't trust Grelvish in any shape or form. Go to Ardalambion, or to Fellowship of the Word-smiths for correct elvish, both Sindarin and Quenyan. Fellowship of the Word-smiths also has stuff about Tengwar (with cool examples of Elvish calligraphy), plus all the Middle-earthean language lines from the Movies, with translations. A very useful site.

Abedithon le! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

06-18-2003, 02:46 PM

Also, web pagehas great lessons in Sindarin, plus you can sign up to be a "buddy" with another member. You can either learn fromt them if they are more advanced than you are, or teachers are always welcome.

Maikadurwen · 06-19-2003, 04:51 PM

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Maikadurwen · 06-19-2003, 05:06 PM

wow these are really good

barandilwen · 06-23-2003, 01:52 AM

i really appreciate you guys for giving me these websites... thank a lot! and i'm sorry if i replied rather late due to some important things i can't escape from... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Orominuialwen · 08-02-2003, 08:22 PM

Fellowship of the Wordsmiths,a.k.a. Gwaith i-Phethdain rules. I found a great book for learning Quenya and Sindarin. It's called The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-earth and it's by Ruth S. Noel. Everyone who wants to learn elvish should read this book! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Elennar Starfire · 08-03-2003, 06:12 PM

My choir teacher would sometimes talk for the whole class period, and we would not sing that day, so once I said "antolle ulua sulrim" (much wind pours from your mouth) as I was leaving the room. Also once I told a girl to "auta miqula orqu" (go kiss an orc), and she said "umm...yes?" I thought it was quite funny.

I know, those are Grelvish, but I didn't know any good Quenyan or Sindarin insults then.

Lëowen · 08-04-2003, 07:46 PM

I'm not sure if this counts as an insult, but...

Man fir ar hyraryalle aran?

Basically, 'who died and left you king?'

Sapphire_Flame · 08-07-2003, 08:51 PM

*snork* Nice one, Leowen. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Quote:

but I didn't know any good Quenyan or Sindarin insults

Allow me to assist:

Le uanui a lin naneth hab le gladhaen. ~~"You're ugly and your mother dresses you funny."

Anu hen orch u-naneth ~~"Son of a motherless orc."

And of course Leowen's brilliant one above. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Abedithon le,

~*~Aranel~*~

the guy who be short · 08-13-2003, 10:43 AM

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Man fir ar hyraryalle aran?

How do you pronounce hyraryalle? Should the "y"'s sound like the "i" in pit?
(I know the rest of pronunciation in quenya)

Lëowen · 08-13-2003, 03:35 PM

I'm actually not quite sure how to pronounce that. Sorry.
Maybe someone else knows?

Sapphire_Flame · 08-14-2003, 01:11 PM

The vowel "y" is pronounced like "ee" with rounded lips. It takes a while to get it right....

Abedithon le,

~*~Aranel~*~

Elennar Starfire · 08-14-2003, 01:15 PM

Thank you, Sapphire_Flame! That's very helpful.

Sapphire_Flame · 08-14-2003, 05:44 PM

*bows* Cuinen buiad, mellyn nin!

Abedithon le,

~*~Aranel~*~

maikafanawen · 08-14-2003, 06:11 PM

I like Grey Company because it has a great variety of words for someone who wants to learn a few quick words of a pretty language. But I do agree that they should magnify that writing in very fine print under their homepage title. None the less, I won't begin to admonish every newbie that collects a handful of vocabulary from that site. Grelvish ... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Anywho, I was wondering if anyone knows how to say some sort of more elegant insult/comebacks like "You'll forgive me if I don't get up" or "You understand if I don't hold my breath" Of course it isn't going to fit exactly but just something of that gist.

I guess we could break it down to translate:

"You'll understand if I don't..."

and then

"hold my breath" or "get up [to greet you]"

The people I know at academy and clubs do know a collection of elvish and it wouldn't be very subtle if I was to insult them in a language they knew! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] But I've never heard these phrases before ... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Thanks

-Maikafanawen

[EDIT]: Oh yeah...I couldn't get that Ardalamdion (I think I spelt that right) website to open. Can someone give me the exact address instead of a link? Thanks!

[ August 14, 2003: Message edited by: maikafanawen ]

Sapphire_Flame · 08-14-2003, 11:18 PM

Maika, the address is www.ardalambion.com. Hope that helps!

And for your "polite" insults:

Heniach ir u-'erin hwest nin. = You'll understand if I don't hold my breath.

Heniach ir nin u-erien suilad le. = You'll understand if I don't rise to greet you.

I hope I could be of assistance.

Abedithon le,

~*~Aranel~*~

maikafanawen · 08-15-2003, 10:04 PM

Oooh! Thank ye sooo much!

-Maikafanawen

Aethelwine · 08-19-2003, 06:43 AM

Hello everybody!

So, "Auta miqula orqu." is Grelvish? To bad, I really like it.

I'm sorry if I've not seen this, but then what is the real Quenya/Sindarin translation for : Go kiss an orc?

Thanks already!

Aethelwine.

Elennar Starfire · 08-19-2003, 10:35 AM

Could anyone tell me the translation for "idiot" or "fool" or something of that sort?

Sapphire_Flame · 08-19-2003, 11:22 AM

"Go kiss an orc" = "Bado orch echado meleth." (lit. "go make love to an orc")

There isn't a direct word for "fool" or "idiot" in Sindarin. The closest I got was "rinc" (jerk) and "na er gladhant (one laughed at).

Abedithon le,

~*~Aranel~*~

Aethelwine · 09-20-2003, 07:22 AM

Sorry for the very late reply, but I forgot I had posted on this treath.

*snort* Go make love to an orc! I love it!

People at school, beware! *laughs*

Navaer!

Aethelwine.

Sapphire_Flame · 09-20-2003, 09:05 AM

Actually, in the course of wandering around the Downs, I discovered the real way to say "Go kiss an orc":

Mibo orch (with a circumflex over the "i")

So now you have multipy ways of offending people surrepticiously! Congrats!

Abedithon le,

~*~Aranel~*~

06-01-2003, 08:38 PM	#41
Niluial Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the darkness of white Posts: 601	Lol I said "Llie n'vanima ar' lle atara lanneina" (You're ugly and your mother dresses you funny) to my Professor yesterday.. he just looked at me and started laughing… I hope my Professor is not a Tolkien fan.. or I’m in trouble. Ok, is there an Professor here who teaches a girl named Kyla McAllen.. in Sydney [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]… [ June 02, 2003: Message edited by: Niluial ] __________________ Life is not about how many breaths you take but about how many times it leaves you breathless. My rants, moans and groans in other words my Blog My Magical Site

06-02-2003, 06:14 PM	#46
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	U- can be a prefix in Sindarin, meaning "not" or implying a negative. (i.e. u-bedo = don't talk) __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

06-08-2003, 06:41 AM	#48
Elentarimir Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Is this a trick question? Posts: 125	Hey, I like grey Elvish! [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ Due to lack of funding, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

06-12-2003, 12:45 PM	#50
Feared Half-Elf Wight Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Up a tree. Posts: 213	EVERYONE'S SAID ALL MINE!!!! PLUS A FEW!!!!!! __________________ "You will find the Holy Grail in Castle Aaaaaaahhhhhh leans sideways" Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

06-13-2003, 09:37 PM	#51
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	I really think we ought to alert people somehow about Grelvish. It's starting to get very annoying. I think the proper term is uvanima, because Morgoth's creations were called Uvanimar, or Ugly Ones (because they were monsters), and the singular of that term is "Uvanima." The prefix "u-" also means "not" or "opposite" in Quenya. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

06-02-2003, 02:03 PM	#44
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	Thanks, sapphireflame. I already saw that actually. Doesnt n'vanima mean not beautiful rather than ugly?

06-03-2003, 12:29 PM	#47
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	Well, n- is a common European prefix meaning not. So, perhaps this language uses it because Europeans (and Americans) will be comfortable with it. Damn grey company elvish. Or, as i call it, Grelvish.

06-09-2003, 11:37 AM	#49
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	I meant grey company elvish! Not sindarin, obviously.

06-14-2003, 03:14 AM	#52
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	how do you say "you are" in quenya. Im taking lessons, but i havent done so for ages, and also pronouns is something like lesson 11! i know "na" means "is" (or "nar" plural) but how do you say "you are"? just thought it would be easier asking you people than doing about 15 lessons.

06-15-2003, 01:21 AM	#53
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	Hey guy who be short! I don't think there is a 'you are' in Quenya. If you want to say 'you are', you say 'lle'. Hope that helped! ~Tarien P.S Nil, did you really say that to your professor?? [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] I said "Auta Miqula Orqu" to my Physics teacher last week when she ticked me off. She scolded me for speaking rubbish! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

06-15-2003, 03:26 AM	#54
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	Isnt lle Sindarin? Well, i dont suppose it particularly matters, nobody can tell anyway. Or i could just say (insert name here) na uvanima.

06-15-2003, 09:28 PM	#55
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	It would have to be "na" (with an accent on the "a") because it is a singular "you." If it were plural, then it would be "nar." The full phrase is: "Nal(yë) (whatever phrase that you want to add in)" __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

06-16-2003, 03:59 AM	#56
barandilwen Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 31	i was wonderin were you learn more of these stuff cos it really rocks! i only know a few of elvish, sindarin and quenya... can you recomend any sites? __________________ i am barandilwen, also known as bundin snowmallet to the dwarves and robin black of tightfeild to the little ones

06-16-2003, 09:09 AM	#57
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	Guy, could I just say (insert name here) na uvamnima Hmmm..yes 'lle' is Sindarin. Did you wnat it in Quenya? "na uvanima" is correct, I should think. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Sorry if I'm confusing you. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] BTW, barandilwen, go to www.grey-company.org (although this isn't exactly correct Elvish) www.hot-elf.com Ask the others - they can recommend some more sites. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

06-16-2003, 09:24 AM	#58
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	I do NOT recommend using the Grey Elvish site. It will just confuse you. The best site to learn true Elvish is Ardalambion (www.ardalambion.com). That is the only site that I will trust. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

06-16-2003, 11:07 AM	#59
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	Right on, Finwe. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Yeah, I don't trust Grelvish in any shape or form. Go to Ardalambion, or to Fellowship of the Word-smiths for correct elvish, both Sindarin and Quenyan. Fellowship of the Word-smiths also has stuff about Tengwar (with cool examples of Elvish calligraphy), plus all the Middle-earthean language lines from the Movies, with translations. A very useful site. Abedithon le! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

06-18-2003, 02:46 PM	#60
Dunwen Guest Posts: n/a	Also, web pagehas great lessons in Sindarin, plus you can sign up to be a "buddy" with another member. You can either learn fromt them if they are more advanced than you are, or teachers are always welcome.

06-19-2003, 04:51 PM	#61
Maikadurwen Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Beyound the mountains Posts: 115	null __________________ Fantastic!

06-19-2003, 05:06 PM	#62
Maikadurwen Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Beyound the mountains Posts: 115	wow these are really good __________________ Fantastic!

06-23-2003, 01:52 AM	#63
barandilwen Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 31	i really appreciate you guys for giving me these websites... thank a lot! and i'm sorry if i replied rather late due to some important things i can't escape from... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ i am barandilwen, also known as bundin snowmallet to the dwarves and robin black of tightfeild to the little ones

08-02-2003, 08:22 PM	#64
Orominuialwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: Umbar, but before the corsairs took over. (Ave Maria University, FL, USA) Posts: 632	Fellowship of the Wordsmiths,a.k.a. Gwaith i-Phethdain rules. I found a great book for learning Quenya and Sindarin. It's called The Languages of Tolkien's Middle-earth and it's by Ruth S. Noel. Everyone who wants to learn elvish should read this book! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Gone for lentSeeyou at Easter! (And on Sundays too, maybe.)

08-03-2003, 06:12 PM	#65
Elennar Starfire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nowhere...now here Posts: 952	My choir teacher would sometimes talk for the whole class period, and we would not sing that day, so once I said "antolle ulua sulrim" (much wind pours from your mouth) as I was leaving the room. Also once I told a girl to "auta miqula orqu" (go kiss an orc), and she said "umm...yes?" I thought it was quite funny. I know, those are Grelvish, but I didn't know any good Quenyan or Sindarin insults then. __________________ Don't let me die!

08-04-2003, 07:46 PM	#66
Lëowen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: my computer chair, being smothered by my impossibly large cat Posts: 93	I'm not sure if this counts as an insult, but... Man fir ar hyraryalle aran? Basically, 'who died and left you king?' __________________ Be individual! Join the millions of other people also being individual! Prevent Merry Abuse! Join S.A.M!

08-13-2003, 03:35 PM	#69
Lëowen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: my computer chair, being smothered by my impossibly large cat Posts: 93	I'm actually not quite sure how to pronounce that. Sorry. Maybe someone else knows? __________________ Be individual! Join the millions of other people also being individual! Prevent Merry Abuse! Join S.A.M!

08-14-2003, 01:11 PM	#70
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	The vowel "y" is pronounced like "ee" with rounded lips. It takes a while to get it right.... Abedithon le, ~~Aranel~~ __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

08-14-2003, 01:15 PM	#71
Elennar Starfire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nowhere...now here Posts: 952	Thank you, Sapphire_Flame! That's very helpful. __________________ Don't let me die!

08-14-2003, 05:44 PM	#72
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	bows Cuinen buiad, mellyn nin! Abedithon le, ~~Aranel~~ __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

08-14-2003, 06:11 PM	#73
maikafanawen Tears of Simbelmynë Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Beast's Castle Posts: 705	I like Grey Company because it has a great variety of words for someone who wants to learn a few quick words of a pretty language. But I do agree that they should magnify that writing in very fine print under their homepage title. None the less, I won't begin to admonish every newbie that collects a handful of vocabulary from that site. Grelvish ... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Anywho, I was wondering if anyone knows how to say some sort of more elegant insult/comebacks like "You'll forgive me if I don't get up" or "You understand if I don't hold my breath" Of course it isn't going to fit exactly but just something of that gist. I guess we could break it down to translate: "You'll understand if I don't..." and then "hold my breath" or "get up [to greet you]" The people I know at academy and clubs do know a collection of elvish and it wouldn't be very subtle if I was to insult them in a language they knew! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] But I've never heard these phrases before ... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Thanks -Maikafanawen [EDIT]: Oh yeah...I couldn't get that Ardalamdion (I think I spelt that right) website to open. Can someone give me the exact address instead of a link? Thanks! [ August 14, 2003: Message edited by: maikafanawen ] __________________ "They call this war a cloud over the land. But they made the weather and then they stand in the rain and say, 'Sht, it's raining!'" -- Ruby, Cold Mountain*

08-14-2003, 11:18 PM	#74
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	Maika, the address is www.ardalambion.com. Hope that helps! And for your "polite" insults: Heniach ir u-'erin hwest nin. = You'll understand if I don't hold my breath. Heniach ir nin u-erien suilad le. = You'll understand if I don't rise to greet you. I hope I could be of assistance. Abedithon le, ~~Aranel~~ __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

08-15-2003, 10:04 PM	#75
maikafanawen Tears of Simbelmynë Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Beast's Castle Posts: 705	Oooh! Thank ye sooo much! -Maikafanawen __________________ "They call this war a cloud over the land. But they made the weather and then they stand in the rain and say, 'Sht, it's raining!'" -- Ruby, Cold Mountain*

08-19-2003, 06:43 AM	#76
Aethelwine Wight Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: In Anórien, just outside Edoras, on a horse I "borrowed"... Posts: 150	Hello everybody! So, "Auta miqula orqu." is Grelvish? To bad, I really like it. I'm sorry if I've not seen this, but then what is the real Quenya/Sindarin translation for : Go kiss an orc? Thanks already! Aethelwine. __________________ Nelly, I am Heathcliff! He's always, always in my mind--not as a pleasure, any more than I am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being. - Catherine to Nelly, Wuthering Heights

08-19-2003, 10:35 AM	#77
Elennar Starfire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nowhere...now here Posts: 952	Could anyone tell me the translation for "idiot" or "fool" or something of that sort? __________________ Don't let me die!

08-19-2003, 11:22 AM	#78
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	"Go kiss an orc" = "Bado orch echado meleth." (lit. "go make love to an orc") There isn't a direct word for "fool" or "idiot" in Sindarin. The closest I got was "rinc" (jerk) and "na er gladhant (one laughed at). Abedithon le, ~~Aranel~~ __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

09-20-2003, 07:22 AM	#79
Aethelwine Wight Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: In Anórien, just outside Edoras, on a horse I "borrowed"... Posts: 150	Sorry for the very late reply, but I forgot I had posted on this treath. snort Go make love to an orc! I love it! People at school, beware! laughs Navaer! Aethelwine. __________________ Nelly, I am Heathcliff! He's always, always in my mind--not as a pleasure, any more than I am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being. - Catherine to Nelly, Wuthering Heights

09-20-2003, 09:05 AM	#80
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	Actually, in the course of wandering around the Downs, I discovered the real way to say "Go kiss an orc": Mibo orch (with a circumflex over the "i") So now you have multipy ways of offending people surrepticiously! Congrats! Abedithon le, ~~Aranel~~ __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost