The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > The Books
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts


 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
Old 02-11-2002, 09:40 PM   #11
Marileangorifurnimaluim
Eerie Forest Spectre
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Buried in scrolls of fanfiction
Posts: 798
Marileangorifurnimaluim has just left Hobbiton.
Silmaril

I don't think it's specific examples like that that raise eyebrows, but Sam's worshipful attitude overall. The persistent pattern, the unadorned love and admiration, that confuses some without a context for the Master/Manservant distance.

As far as examples, I've heard all kinds. There's Cirith Ungol:
"it seemed to Sam he (Frodo) was clothed in red flame"
and Frodo in his lap..
"he could lie there in endless happiness, but it was not allowed. It wasn't enough to find his master..";
the nap on the stairs up to Shelob's Lair
"rest your head in my lap Mr. Frodo"; holding Frodo's hand in Rivendell
"it's warm.. begging your pardon sir, but your hand was so cold.." and blushing;
the line about
"like a small creature defending its mate"
in the fight against Shelob is the one my English teacher cites..
Then there's after the Scouring of the Shire and Sam feeling "torn in two" once he's married, a conflict not resolved until Frodo has him move in.

The cure for hypothermia is the same, BTW. And the closeness caused by extreme conditions is heightened by the fact that Frodo and Sam live in two different worlds that wouldn't ordinarily get so close.

[ February 11, 2002: Message edited by: Marileangorifurnimaluim ]
__________________
Deserves death! I daresay he does... And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them?
Marileangorifurnimaluim is offline   Reply With Quote
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:53 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.