The Antagonist - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

twinkle · 05-28-2002, 06:01 AM

i see both ring and maker equally in their roles as antagonists....
even though sauron is mentioned less, his presence is felt throughout the book, not only through the ring itself....
as to the ring being able to assert it's own will....i think it was very limited in that respect....it had the ability apparently to make its presence known, or felt rather, or it could remain hidden, the ability to be lost or found.....but it had no choice as to wether bilbo left it to frodo or not....
i don't think either sauron or the ring would've really cared who picked it up....though they may have preferred an ally...(cared, preferred, maybe words a bit too strong to apply to the ring, as i don't believe it to be cognitive, just sentient)....
in any case, i believe it was heavily relied upon that the ring had such corruptive powers......
now where we all know that said conception proved to be a fatal error, i can only blame that on the fact that i believe both sauron's and the ring's capacities were limited.....
the ring's due to the fact that it's already limited in physical means to steer its fate and destination, sauron's due to his weakened state in pouring his strength into the ring.....
so i see them as two equal antagonists, each halved in power, who may have had a better chance at success if they had remained a whole......

twinkle

[ May 28, 2002: Message edited by: twinkle ]

05-28-2002, 06:01 AM	#8
twinkle Animated Skeleton Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: my little blooming garden Posts: 45	i see both ring and maker equally in their roles as antagonists.... even though sauron is mentioned less, his presence is felt throughout the book, not only through the ring itself.... as to the ring being able to assert it's own will....i think it was very limited in that respect....it had the ability apparently to make its presence known, or felt rather, or it could remain hidden, the ability to be lost or found.....but it had no choice as to wether bilbo left it to frodo or not.... i don't think either sauron or the ring would've really cared who picked it up....though they may have preferred an ally...(cared, preferred, maybe words a bit too strong to apply to the ring, as i don't believe it to be cognitive, just sentient).... in any case, i believe it was heavily relied upon that the ring had such corruptive powers...... now where we all know that said conception proved to be a fatal error, i can only blame that on the fact that i believe both sauron's and the ring's capacities were limited..... the ring's due to the fact that it's already limited in physical means to steer its fate and destination, sauron's due to his weakened state in pouring his strength into the ring..... so i see them as two equal antagonists, each halved in power, who may have had a better chance at success if they had remained a whole...... twinkle [ May 28, 2002: Message edited by: twinkle ] __________________ “For if joyful is the fountain that rises in the sun, its springs are in the wells of sorrow unfathomable at the foundations of the Earth.” ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Silmarillion