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gralin musicteeth · 03-05-2003, 06:47 PM

Has anybody here heard the Nightfall in Middle-Earth album that Blind Guardian did? I was listening to it and wondered what everybody here thought of it. Personally I think it's great but my sister thinks Tolkien would be spinning in his grave. What do you think?

03-06-2003, 09:59 AM

If one looks at it as a Tolkien-rendering, sure he would be spinning in his grave, but I think most of us just see it as a tribute. It's a pretty good cd imho.

Narya · 03-09-2003, 11:44 AM

Hi, I really like this group, Blind Guardian.
I like their music and I´ve discovered them just a few weeks ago.
The first of their CDs I have buyed was Nightfall in Middle Earth. I first heard "Curse of Feanor" on the internet and because I was allways fascinated by Feanor and his story and because I like it very much, when people write/sing songs about thing I admire, I liked the song very much. The song discribes the same feeling I have about this stories. I loved the other songs on the album as well.
But I am not sure if Tolkien would be spinning in his grave or not.
I tend to think the songs are just a tribute to Tolkien and a good interpreatation of the Silmarillion; I don´t think they are a masterpiece of a new Silmarillion put into music, but they are a nice and well- done fan- tribute.
Compared with the LoTR- movie as another interpreatation of Tolkien´s work, Nightfall is very good, because the way of putting the stories into music is concentrated on the feelings and the thoughts behind the stories and not on plain action.
(I don´t want to critize the film; maybe you can´t even compare the movie with this album, but I think the album also has a -let´s say- high quality...)

[ March 11, 2003: Message edited by: Narya ]

hobbit punk · 03-11-2003, 09:56 AM

I was not aware of this! I am now very excited to check it out. I am pretty sure if I found the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins charmingly cheesy then Blind Guardian will seem excellent in comparison. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

hobbit punk · 03-11-2003, 07:13 PM

[img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] Wow! I just dowloaded a bunch of the Blind Guardian songs and they are so beautiful. They sound very medevil which I love, they even got me in the mood to draw-a great way to get the creative juices flowing! Or even to do other things to... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Aerandir Carnesir · 03-11-2003, 08:10 PM

Hey hobbit punk! I also just downloaded a bunch of Blind Gaurdian songs. Right now, I'm listening to "Time Stands Still on the Iron Hill". This band is great. They satisfy my rock cravings and my LotR cravings at the same time! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] All I've been listening to is TTT soundtrack, and that was getting boring cause I can't play any of those songs on my guitar. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] The Curse of Feanor is pretty good, and I like the Bard's Song too.

ROCK ON MY FRIENDS!!!

Ranger of the Dúnedain,

Aerandir Carnesir [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Narya · 03-12-2003, 05:44 AM

I´m glad that you like them [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
They make very good metal- music I think.
Time stands still.. is one of my favorites, too.
I´m allready planing to make a Silmarillion- Movie with this music as a background.. okay, maybe I won´t but who knows?

As I said before I think it´s OK to make such an album as an tribute to Tolkien.

lathspell · 03-12-2003, 03:56 PM

Blind Guardian is a good group, though as is said before, if you look only at the things said about Tolkien's works, you would be spinnig [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Does your sister like the sort of music Blind Guardian makes anyway??

lathspell

hobbit punk · 03-12-2003, 09:23 PM

Hey @Aerandir Carnesir
Yeah very true, Blind Guardian does satisfy both. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Also I just finished watching Wayne's World for like the billionth time(I still love it!)and Blind Guardian is a band that would have totally met the approval of Wayne and Garth. Man, Blind Guardian, they can really wail! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Party on!

gralin musicteeth · 03-13-2003, 08:31 AM

I think it's amazing how BG drew on the books for inspiration. You wouldn't see Britney Spears doing anything that intelligent [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]. And, lathspell, we do not usually like things we cannot understand, as is the case with my sister. Oh, and Nightfall is my fav! You might also want to check out Lord of the Rings on their Tales of the Twilight World album!

Narya · 03-13-2003, 08:43 AM

Quote:

You wouldn't see Britney Spears doing anything that intelligent

I think any of her *professional songwriters* wouldn´t do anything that intelligent, too. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

But have you noticed that Blind Guardian consulted Tolkien- experts for their Nightfall... - album?

gralin musicteeth · 03-13-2003, 03:13 PM

I did not know that

Bill Ferny · 03-14-2003, 12:06 PM

Quote:

They sound very medevil which I love…

How can a speed metal band possibly sound medieval? Or is this a bastardization of the term, much like the band’s bastardization of the futhark alphabet and Celtic knot-work on their album covers?

If you want something that sounds medieval, try Gregorian chant.

(Just a comment from the peanut gallery.)

gralin musicteeth · 03-18-2003, 01:33 PM

To each his own [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

03-05-2003, 06:47 PM	#1
gralin musicteeth Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tossing half-sick between grotesque reality and savage, frightening dreams Posts: 360	Blind Guardian Has anybody here heard the Nightfall in Middle-Earth album that Blind Guardian did? I was listening to it and wondered what everybody here thought of it. Personally I think it's great but my sister thinks Tolkien would be spinning in his grave. What do you think? __________________ Where was the stooped and mealy-coloured old man I used to call Poppa when the merry-go-round broke down?

03-09-2003, 11:44 AM	#3
Narya Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: not here... floating down the Liffey Posts: 124	Hi, I really like this group, Blind Guardian. I like their music and I´ve discovered them just a few weeks ago. The first of their CDs I have buyed was Nightfall in Middle Earth. I first heard "Curse of Feanor" on the internet and because I was allways fascinated by Feanor and his story and because I like it very much, when people write/sing songs about thing I admire, I liked the song very much. The song discribes the same feeling I have about this stories. I loved the other songs on the album as well. But I am not sure if Tolkien would be spinning in his grave or not. I tend to think the songs are just a tribute to Tolkien and a good interpreatation of the Silmarillion; I don´t think they are a masterpiece of a new Silmarillion put into music, but they are a nice and well- done fan- tribute. Compared with the LoTR- movie as another interpreatation of Tolkien´s work, Nightfall is very good, because the way of putting the stories into music is concentrated on the feelings and the thoughts behind the stories and not on plain action. (I don´t want to critize the film; maybe you can´t even compare the movie with this album, but I think the album also has a -let´s say- high quality...) [ March 11, 2003: Message edited by: Narya ] __________________ ...for we know the joy of life is the peace* that love can bring* So spoke the wizard in his mountain home.

03-11-2003, 09:56 AM	#4
hobbit punk Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 86	I was not aware of this! I am now very excited to check it out. I am pretty sure if I found the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins charmingly cheesy then Blind Guardian will seem excellent in comparison. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ "The alphabet does not go "A B C D What? When? How? but it does go "V W X Why? Z." -Douglas Adams

03-11-2003, 07:13 PM	#5
hobbit punk Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 86	[img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] Wow! I just dowloaded a bunch of the Blind Guardian songs and they are so beautiful. They sound very medevil which I love, they even got me in the mood to draw-a great way to get the creative juices flowing! Or even to do other things to... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ "The alphabet does not go "A B C D What? When? How? but it does go "V W X Why? Z." -Douglas Adams

03-11-2003, 08:10 PM	#6
Aerandir Carnesir Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Finally out of the Paths of the Dead! Posts: 107	Hey hobbit punk! I also just downloaded a bunch of Blind Gaurdian songs. Right now, I'm listening to "Time Stands Still on the Iron Hill". This band is great. They satisfy my rock cravings and my LotR cravings at the same time! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] All I've been listening to is TTT soundtrack, and that was getting boring cause I can't play any of those songs on my guitar. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img] The Curse of Feanor is pretty good, and I like the Bard's Song too. ROCK ON MY FRIENDS!!! Ranger of the Dúnedain, Aerandir Carnesir [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ "God is the Lord, of angels, and of men--and of elves" -J.R.R. Tolkien "Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens."-Gimli "Spiders are hideous."-Dietrich Bonhoeffer

03-06-2003, 09:59 AM	#2
Odie Guest Posts: n/a	If one looks at it as a Tolkien-rendering, sure he would be spinning in his grave, but I think most of us just see it as a tribute. It's a pretty good cd imho.

03-12-2003, 05:44 AM	#7
Narya Wight Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: not here... floating down the Liffey Posts: 124	I´m glad that you like them [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] They make very good metal- music I think. Time stands still.. is one of my favorites, too. I´m allready planing to make a Silmarillion- Movie with this music as a background.. okay, maybe I won´t but who knows? As I said before I think it´s OK to make such an album as an tribute to Tolkien. __________________ ...for we know the joy of life is the peace* that love can bring* So spoke the wizard in his mountain home.

03-12-2003, 03:56 PM	#8
lathspell Regenerating Ringkeeper Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 757	Blind Guardian is a good group, though as is said before, if you look only at the things said about Tolkien's works, you would be spinnig [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] Does your sister like the sort of music Blind Guardian makes anyway?? lathspell __________________ 'You?' cried Frodo. 'Yes, I, Gandalf the Grey,' said the wizard solemnly. 'There are many powers in the world, for good or for evil. Some are greater than I am. Against some I have not yet been measured. But my time is coming.'

03-12-2003, 09:23 PM	#9
hobbit punk Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 86	Hey @Aerandir Carnesir Yeah very true, Blind Guardian does satisfy both. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] Also I just finished watching Wayne's World for like the billionth time(I still love it!)and Blind Guardian is a band that would have totally met the approval of Wayne and Garth. Man, Blind Guardian, they can really wail! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] Party on! __________________ "The alphabet does not go "A B C D What? When? How? but it does go "V W X Why? Z." -Douglas Adams

03-13-2003, 08:31 AM	#10
gralin musicteeth Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tossing half-sick between grotesque reality and savage, frightening dreams Posts: 360	I think it's amazing how BG drew on the books for inspiration. You wouldn't see Britney Spears doing anything that intelligent [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]. And, lathspell, we do not usually like things we cannot understand, as is the case with my sister. Oh, and Nightfall is my fav! You might also want to check out Lord of the Rings on their Tales of the Twilight World album! __________________ Where was the stooped and mealy-coloured old man I used to call Poppa when the merry-go-round broke down?

03-13-2003, 03:13 PM	#12
gralin musicteeth Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tossing half-sick between grotesque reality and savage, frightening dreams Posts: 360	I did not know that __________________ Where was the stooped and mealy-coloured old man I used to call Poppa when the merry-go-round broke down?

03-18-2003, 01:33 PM	#14
gralin musicteeth Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tossing half-sick between grotesque reality and savage, frightening dreams Posts: 360	To each his own [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Where was the stooped and mealy-coloured old man I used to call Poppa when the merry-go-round broke down?