Why are the Vanyar higher than the Noldor? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

the phantom · 03-03-2003, 02:58 PM

I don't really like to debate who was greater, because I don't believe there's a correct answer depending on your defenition of greatness and what your life experience has been.

I believe that the Vanyar and the Noldor were both necessary parts of ME. Sometimes, more reserved, thoughtful, spiritual, and other typical Vanyar adjectives are the correct approach. But sometimes, an inventive, ambitious, hasty, or warlike approach is the most beneficial, depending on the situation.

They both have pros and cons. The Noldor seemed to be the troublemakers, but on the other hand they were amazingly talented and pursued knowledge. The Vanyar were more obediant and didn't rush into things, but they and the Valar should've got up and done something about Morgoth the instant he murdered Finwe and killed the trees. Because they and the Valar waited and delayed, Morgoth had the time to multiply his orcs, create dragons, and devise other evils that would kill good people for ages to come, so in that situation their lack of action was not the correct choice.

So I would say that neither the Vanyar nor the Noldor are superior.

03-03-2003, 02:58 PM	#1
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	I don't really like to debate who was greater, because I don't believe there's a correct answer depending on your defenition of greatness and what your life experience has been. I believe that the Vanyar and the Noldor were both necessary parts of ME. Sometimes, more reserved, thoughtful, spiritual, and other typical Vanyar adjectives are the correct approach. But sometimes, an inventive, ambitious, hasty, or warlike approach is the most beneficial, depending on the situation. They both have pros and cons. The Noldor seemed to be the troublemakers, but on the other hand they were amazingly talented and pursued knowledge. The Vanyar were more obediant and didn't rush into things, but they and the Valar should've got up and done something about Morgoth the instant he murdered Finwe and killed the trees. Because they and the Valar waited and delayed, Morgoth had the time to multiply his orcs, create dragons, and devise other evils that would kill good people for ages to come, so in that situation their lack of action was not the correct choice. So I would say that neither the Vanyar nor the Noldor are superior. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.