Odd Departure in Appearance Scene - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Finwe · 02-08-2004, 01:30 PM

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It's nice to know that I wasn't the only person who thought of that, except for me, it was the other way around. When I saw that part in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, I was instantly reminded of that scene from the Books.

I think that general lack of mockery added to the mystery. Perhaps Saruman only mocked when he knew that all other courses had failed? When he taunted Gandalf & Co., Isengard had completely fallen and all of Saruman's power had come to naught. He was a desperate man, or rather, desperate Istar. He probably lost his temper completely and betrayed his true feelings.

In other words, I don't really think that we should use that taunting scene as a template for Saruman's character, since he was desperate at that time, and when people are desperate they tend to be a lot more rash and thoughtless than they normally are.

02-08-2004, 01:30 PM	#17
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	dies It's nice to know that I wasn't the only person who thought of that, except for me, it was the other way around. When I saw that part in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, I was instantly reminded of that scene from the Books. I think that general lack of mockery added to the mystery. Perhaps Saruman only mocked when he knew that all other courses had failed? When he taunted Gandalf & Co., Isengard had completely fallen and all of Saruman's power had come to naught. He was a desperate man, or rather, desperate Istar. He probably lost his temper completely and betrayed his true feelings. In other words, I don't really think that we should use that taunting scene as a template for Saruman's character, since he was desperate at that time, and when people are desperate they tend to be a lot more rash and thoughtless than they normally are. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.