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Nazgûl · 01-15-2002, 03:47 PM

What if Frodo hadn't got the help that he needed when he was stabbed.Would Aragorn have destroyed him for the time being or spare him because of there past friendship. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Nazgûl · 01-22-2002, 03:58 PM

Why won't anyone reply. I am not looking for direct answers just thougts.

Turambar · 01-22-2002, 04:18 PM

You mean if Frodo had become a wraith? Good question. I think that Aragorn would not have killed him unless it was absolutely clear that there was no hope for recovery. Gandalf still thought that there was some hope for Gollum, and he had the ring for 500 years or so and was pretty close to becoming a wraith.

Elven-Maiden · 01-23-2002, 08:03 PM

I don't think Aragorn would have been able to kill him. It would have been too hard on him.

Carannillion · 01-24-2002, 04:28 PM

I think Aragorn would have been most capable of killing Frodo. Aragorn (son of Arathorn and all that pompous *** stuff) only knew Frodo as a courier; Frodo had not yet become an official ringbearer, and they were not exactly life-long friends... Gandalf had of course given himspecific instructions on making sure that the Hobbits reached Rivendell unharmed, but how exactly would you bring a wraith along on a hard journey with nine other wraiths hunting you? Tie it up?

As the ultimate goal was to get the Ring to Mt. Doom 'faster than possible', Aragorn would - as a last resort - have been able to kill Frodo.

01-25-2002, 12:33 AM

I think that Aragorn would have been forced to kill Frodo. If Frodo's heart had been pierced, he would have become a wraith like the Nazgul, "only weaker and under their command". With him in the Ringwraiths power, Frodo would have just handed over the Ring, and that would be the end of that.

Enkanowen · 01-25-2002, 03:04 AM

aren't ringwraiths immortal as long as the ring exists kind of thing?

Eowyn of Ithilien · 01-25-2002, 03:47 AM

no; Eowyn and Merry killed the Witch-King while his Ring still existed...but certain blades are necessary, perhaps?

Aralaithiel · 01-25-2002, 04:47 PM

No...they were not men. The Witch-King said that he could not be killed by the hands of man. Eowyn was a woman, and Merry was a hobbit. Or at least that's how I last read it. (Now leaves to go check reference)

01-15-2002, 03:47 PM	#1
Nazgûl Pile O'Bones Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: In the deep wilderness Posts: 18	What if What if Frodo hadn't got the help that he needed when he was stabbed.Would Aragorn have destroyed him for the time being or spare him because of there past friendship. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ Darkness will fall over this wretched world. And this time none will stop us!

01-22-2002, 03:58 PM	#2
Nazgûl Pile O'Bones Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: In the deep wilderness Posts: 18	Why won't anyone reply. I am not looking for direct answers just thougts. __________________ Darkness will fall over this wretched world. And this time none will stop us!

01-22-2002, 04:18 PM	#3
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	You mean if Frodo had become a wraith? Good question. I think that Aragorn would not have killed him unless it was absolutely clear that there was no hope for recovery. Gandalf still thought that there was some hope for Gollum, and he had the ring for 500 years or so and was pretty close to becoming a wraith. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

01-23-2002, 08:03 PM	#4
Elven-Maiden Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 297	I don't think Aragorn would have been able to kill him. It would have been too hard on him. __________________ Tout ce qui est or ne brille pas, Tous ceux qui errent ne sont pas perdus. Mobilis in Mobile

01-24-2002, 04:28 PM	#5
Carannillion Wight Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Mici Firya Posts: 135	I think Aragorn would have been most capable of killing Frodo. Aragorn (son of Arathorn and all that pompous * stuff) only knew Frodo as a courier; Frodo had not yet become an official ringbearer, and they were not exactly life-long friends... Gandalf had of course given himspecific instructions on making sure that the Hobbits reached Rivendell unharmed, but how exactly would you bring a wraith along on a hard journey with nine other wraiths hunting you? Tie it up? As the ultimate goal was to get the Ring to Mt. Doom 'faster than possible', Aragorn would - as a last resort** - have been able to kill Frodo. __________________ A cry for the people, but there's noone there to hear...

01-25-2002, 12:33 AM	#6
Elfkor Guest Posts: n/a	I think that Aragorn would have been forced to kill Frodo. If Frodo's heart had been pierced, he would have become a wraith like the Nazgul, "only weaker and under their command". With him in the Ringwraiths power, Frodo would have just handed over the Ring, and that would be the end of that.

01-25-2002, 03:04 AM	#7
Enkanowen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 53	aren't ringwraiths immortal as long as the ring exists kind of thing?

01-25-2002, 03:47 AM	#8
Eowyn of Ithilien Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 277	no; Eowyn and Merry killed the Witch-King while his Ring still existed...but certain blades are necessary, perhaps? __________________ But of bliss and glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song.

01-25-2002, 04:47 PM	#9
Aralaithiel Ghost Eldaran Queen Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A remote mountain in Valinor Posts: 353	No...they were not men. The Witch-King said that he could not be killed by the hands of man. Eowyn was a woman, and Merry was a hobbit. Or at least that's how I last read it. (Now leaves to go check reference) __________________ A lelyat, wen! (Quenya Elvish for "You go, girl!"