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Spirit of the Lonely Star
Join Date: Mar 2002
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There are so many ideas here. I need to come back later when I have more time. Now, just a few thoughts.
Gilthalion-- Quote:
I do agree. This is an Age where the figures of the Valar and Eru often seem far away. Few people, if any, have a conscious sense of who Gandalf really is. And, of course, there is nothing which today we might term "revelation". So it would seem that there must be a way for the spirit to break through. And although Elves do not always live up to the best in their character, they do seem to be the ones who were closest to things that go beyond the natural (at least our own limited view of what is natural). And "religious harmonies" is a word I would use to describe these realities, even though such language has no meaning in the context of the Third Age. All this makes the departure of the Elves at the end of the Third Age even more poignant and, to tell the truth, a little frightening. Man is out there in the Fourth Age seemingly on his own. No revelation yet and no Elves. It must have been harder to find the light. He does have memories of the ancient traditions of Numenor which did encompass some "religious harmonies", but it is still a pretty distant and lonely position to be in. Tolkien once said he couldn't write more about the Fourth Age, because, when compared with the earlier story, it might look trite and debased. But this peculiar interim position of man is a pretty challenging thing! Don't know though if anyone else senses this, or there may be different ways of understanding this? Quote:
The legend of the Took family marriage with a fairy could be simply an expression of this earlier reality. And we do know Frodo and the Tooks had a strong Fallohide strain. So, yes, Frodo could have connected with this earlier strain and, it might have influenced his attitudes towards Elves (as well as how he physically looked.) And the refining of the spirit and the manifestation of the light could also tie in here in a secondary way. This is certainly wild conjecture but this Fallohide strain could even have had some bearing on why Frodo was selected for his task.( I think there was somewhere that Gandalf cryptically says more is known about the origin of Hobbits, but then sadly doesn't say it.) Of course, all of this is guessing, since there is next to nothing on Hobbit origins in the books. littlemanpoet--LOL. Yes, I understand. Hope you got my note. My private message function has been acting strange lately so I'm never sure when messages get through. sharon, the 7th age hobbit
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