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Gwaihir the Windlord · 07-02-2003, 03:50 AM

Starjewel, that's rubbish. To wish to merely control everyone is evil, and the Vanyar and the Valar certainly were not that. That was what Melkor had wished to do from the beginning.
The Noldor were not hindered in their departure from Aman. The Elves in Valinor were not kept there by force, but compelled to live there in good faith because it was clearly the wiser choice -- at least from the point of view of the Vanyar and the Valar. The Vanyar were wise, and wished for peace and joy above conquest. They were gentle and wise people, while the Noldor were tougher, more active and willing to endure hardhips -- although of course the Vanyar proved courageous soldiers when it was required of them to rescue Middle-Earth, under the banner of Eonwe. They were peaceful and harmonious Elves, desiring nothing but the bliss of Valinor, and saw no reason why the Noldor should not be too. That was the difference between them. I do not think either was the greater.

[ July 02, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

07-02-2003, 03:50 AM	#11
Gwaihir the Windlord Essence of Darkness Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Evermore Posts: 1,420	Starjewel, that's rubbish. To wish to merely control everyone is evil, and the Vanyar and the Valar certainly were not that. That was what Melkor had wished to do from the beginning. The Noldor were not hindered in their departure from Aman. The Elves in Valinor were not kept there by force, but compelled to live there in good faith because it was clearly the wiser choice -- at least from the point of view of the Vanyar and the Valar. The Vanyar were wise, and wished for peace and joy above conquest. They were gentle and wise people, while the Noldor were tougher, more active and willing to endure hardhips -- although of course the Vanyar proved courageous soldiers when it was required of them to rescue Middle-Earth, under the banner of Eonwe. They were peaceful and harmonious Elves, desiring nothing but the bliss of Valinor, and saw no reason why the Noldor should not be too. That was the difference between them. I do not think either was the greater. [ July 02, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]