Sarumon and Sauron's War - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Morima · 11-23-2002, 08:11 AM

Hmmm. I sense some sarcasm in that last remark, Bill, but then I haven't read Unfinished Tales. So I don't think I'll say anything more on that yet... :-)

If Tolkien stated other places that the orc species weren't a twisted form of the elf species, that puzzles me. Cause it is clearly stated in The Silmarillion, if I remember right, that Morgoth captured some of the first elves, torured them and thus turned them into orcs! That would be a major contradiction!

But then again, in a huge work like Tolkiens, some contradictions simply have to be. :-) I feel there are more of them in, say, the Harry Potter books, for instance.

11-23-2002, 08:11 AM	#18
Morima Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Budapest. Posts: 78	Hmmm. I sense some sarcasm in that last remark, Bill, but then I haven't read Unfinished Tales. So I don't think I'll say anything more on that yet... :-) If Tolkien stated other places that the orc species weren't a twisted form of the elf species, that puzzles me. Cause it is clearly stated in The Silmarillion, if I remember right, that Morgoth captured some of the first elves, torured them and thus turned them into orcs! That would be a major contradiction! But then again, in a huge work like Tolkiens, some contradictions simply have to be. :-) I feel there are more of them in, say, the Harry Potter books, for instance. __________________ «We're all but noon now; dawn, evening and midnight.» Aki Benetah.