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Old 07-03-2003, 01:00 AM   #6
Gwaihir the Windlord
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ULMO: Thus it may be that good shall come from evil, and that evil was better to have been.
MANDOS: And yet still remain evil. To me shall Feanor come soon.
(My copy of sil is literally falling apart and missing a lot, so this quote is just approximate..)

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[of Finwe's remarriage and the birth of Fingolfin and Finarfin].. many saw the effect of this breach within the house of Finwe, judging that if Finwe had endured his loss and been content with the fathering of his mighty son, the courses of Feanor would have been otherwise, and great evil would have been prevented... But the children of Indis too were great and glorious, and their children also; and if they had not lived then the history of the Eldar would have been diminished.
It is true that this idea of good coming from evil is prevailant in Tolkien's works, be he Catholic, like myself, or no. But why should his being Catholic influence this anyway, aragorn? It is through the evil done to Jesus Christ that the Good News comes from. The religion of Christianity is based on this principle. Anyway, Tolkien did not adhere strictly to purely Catholic ideals in his mythology anyway (although Christianity did have a significant influence on them).

Accross the spectrum, good and evil, it is all included in the Music of the Ainur. Feanor's rebellion was not in itself an evil act (in my opinion), although it was a rebellion, but it is true that evil came out of it. The Kinslaying at Alqualonde, and the war that Feanor's house waged against even other Elves, showed Feanor however himself to be certainly a ruthless fingure -- some may say he himself was rather evil, although it does not come naturally to say that about a prince of the Noldor. The distinction between Feanor's personal evilness and the morality of the rebellion itself exists, though. The rebellion was not evil, but evil things came out of it. Then out of the evil came good. Funny order of things, but that seems to be the way it went. Of course, the Music would have sparked it all.
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