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Aredhel Idril Telcontar · 07-05-2003, 08:34 AM

The rebellion was a good thing. One could say that there was no rebellion at all: the Valar had no right to constrain any Elf. They could have left any time they wanted.

The invatation for the Elves to live in Valinor caused Middle Earth to...well...fade and was against the plan of Eru.
Even afterwards, when Numenor was raised up for the Edain, Middle Earth returned to the *Stone Age*.
Coincidence?

However, I do not think that Eru would have abandoned his Secondborn to their fates. That is why the rebellion happened. Is it really probable that the Valar would have invited Men to Valinor? I, at least, don't think so.

If the Valar decided to attack Melkor when the Elves were born, why did not they do so when Men were? Arda would have recovered enough from the ordeal of their previous battle by then.

Eru did not reveal the birthplace of Men for Manwe. Any ideas why?

[ July 05, 2003: Message edited by: Aredhel Idril Telcontar ]

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Aredhel Idril Telcontar Wight Join Date: May 2003 Location: Hanging on a sheer cliff with Maedhros Posts: 113	The rebellion was a good thing. One could say that there was no rebellion at all: the Valar had no right to constrain any Elf. They could have left any time they wanted. The invatation for the Elves to live in Valinor caused Middle Earth to...well...fade and was against the plan of Eru. Even afterwards, when Numenor was raised up for the Edain, Middle Earth returned to the Stone Age. Coincidence? However, I do not think that Eru would have abandoned his Secondborn to their fates. That is why the rebellion happened. Is it really probable that the Valar would have invited Men to Valinor? I, at least, don't think so. If the Valar decided to attack Melkor when the Elves were born, why did not they do so when Men were? Arda would have recovered enough from the ordeal of their previous battle by then. Eru did not reveal the birthplace of Men for Manwe. Any ideas why? [ July 05, 2003: Message edited by: Aredhel Idril Telcontar ] __________________ "I am your sister and not your servant, and beyond your bounds I will go as seems good to me." Tai uzdaryk mane Tevyne savyje/kaip giesme gerkleje mirtis uzdaro/ ir kaip uzdaro vakara naktis/ o Tu man atsakai: as Tavo laisve