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galpsi · 09-11-2000, 04:04 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who knows their trolls?

Yeah, I'm acquainted with the description of the Olog-hai, Mark IV. It's an example I'm seeking.
Not to quibble, but the troll that attacked Beregond, and which Pippin so valiantly slayed, was described as the "troll-chief" of a company of company of (garden-variety?) "hill-trolls." Tolkien always calls Uruk-hai by name; he doesn't just call them orcs. Having made such a repeated point of this with orcs, why wouldn't he do the same with trolls?
One might argue that they have to be Olog-hai because they are fighting during daylight, but JRRT carefully set the scene. The Last Alliance approached Morannon by moonlight and though the sun was just rising in the East, it was veiled "in the reeks of Mordor ... the gathering mirk." Not to mention that the trolls were in deep cleft of Cirith Gorgor, shielded from the pitiful remaining rays by the high-ground all around them.
I just don't think that this serves as the example I'm looking for.

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09-11-2000, 04:04 AM	#11
galpsi The Unquiet Dead Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 971	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Unquiet Dead Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/nenya.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Who knows their trolls? Yeah, I'm acquainted with the description of the Olog-hai, Mark IV. It's an example I'm seeking. Not to quibble, but the troll that attacked Beregond, and which Pippin so valiantly slayed, was described as the "troll-chief" of a company of company of (garden-variety?) "hill-trolls." Tolkien always calls Uruk-hai by name; he doesn't just call them orcs. Having made such a repeated point of this with orcs, why wouldn't he do the same with trolls? One might argue that they have to be Olog-hai because they are fighting during daylight, but JRRT carefully set the scene. The Last Alliance approached Morannon by moonlight and though the sun was just rising in the East, it was veiled "in the reeks of Mordor ... the gathering mirk." Not to mention that the trolls were in deep cleft of Cirith Gorgor, shielded from the pitiful remaining rays by the high-ground all around them. I just don't think that this serves as the example I'm looking for. </p>