The Edain - The Twice Fallen? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Olorin_TLA · 10-12-2003, 05:27 PM

Slightly on a tangent, but do you think Tolkien may have been making a point when the Edain who become the most advanced, succesful etc fall again, whereas those who stay behind in M-earth don't fall into worship of Sauron (though they're by all accounts pretty rough handed (even Helm, centruries later) )

In the first Fall ALL of humnaity Falls - however, in the Akallabeth, some Númenoreans resist Sauron throughout, so I think that it's not so "total" as the Frist was. Obviously, it's effects on the physical world, history of the world, and realtions of men with the West was huge though.

10-12-2003, 05:27 PM	#5
Olorin_TLA Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Gardens of Lórien, Valinor. Posts: 420	Slightly on a tangent, but do you think Tolkien may have been making a point when the Edain who become the most advanced, succesful etc fall again, whereas those who stay behind in M-earth don't fall into worship of Sauron (though they're by all accounts pretty rough handed (even Helm, centruries later) ) In the first Fall ALL of humnaity Falls - however, in the Akallabeth, some Númenoreans resist Sauron throughout, so I think that it's not so "total" as the Frist was. Obviously, it's effects on the physical world, history of the world, and realtions of men with the West was huge though. __________________ "For I am Olórin! And Olórin means me!" ELENDIL! - Join "Forth Tolkiengas!"