Fat Sam in TTT - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

doug*platypus · 01-02-2003, 04:42 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Dominic Monaghan did wear a fat suit for filming. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yeah, I heard someone else say that, as well. Not that I don't believe you guys, but if you have a link to a quote or an article or something, I'd love to check it out. Seems to have been a PJ decision to have Fat Sam. At least we all agree that he's fat, for good or ill. <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I'm not sure, but doesn't Galadriel give Sam the rope only in the extended version? I might be getting the two mixed up, so correct me if I'm wrong. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Quite right, the only one of Galadriel's gifts we see in the movie cut is Frodo's Phial. But the Gollum quote "it burns" is kept, although it's meaning isn't alluded to at all. I think Tolkien was implying a different hurt to just ropeburn. Once again, PJ mimics a line without getting to the heart of it. <P>I have to admit that my vision of a lean and fit Sam doesn't come from any quotable source. But Tolkien seems to have thought chubbiness a prerequisite for disaster, at least on this kind of mission... quest... thing. Look at Bombur in The Hobbit, poor guy. Fatty Bolger's character remains behind. Frodo himself has to lose a few more pounds before he looks like himself again and is ready for adventure - Pippin even mocks his weight. Pippin might have done the same if bookSam was fat, which I don't believe he was.

01-02-2003, 04:42 AM	#29
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Dominic Monaghan did wear a fat suit for filming. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yeah, I heard someone else say that, as well. Not that I don't believe you guys, but if you have a link to a quote or an article or something, I'd love to check it out. Seems to have been a PJ decision to have Fat Sam. At least we all agree that he's fat, for good or ill. <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> I'm not sure, but doesn't Galadriel give Sam the rope only in the extended version? I might be getting the two mixed up, so correct me if I'm wrong. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Quite right, the only one of Galadriel's gifts we see in the movie cut is Frodo's Phial. But the Gollum quote "it burns" is kept, although it's meaning isn't alluded to at all. I think Tolkien was implying a different hurt to just ropeburn. Once again, PJ mimics a line without getting to the heart of it. <P>I have to admit that my vision of a lean and fit Sam doesn't come from any quotable source. But Tolkien seems to have thought chubbiness a prerequisite for disaster, at least on this kind of mission... quest... thing. Look at Bombur in The Hobbit, poor guy. Fatty Bolger's character remains behind. Frodo himself has to lose a few more pounds before he looks like himself again and is ready for adventure - Pippin even mocks his weight. Pippin might have done the same if bookSam was fat, which I don't believe he was. __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.