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Kalimac · 05-14-2002, 01:33 AM

Oh, this is wonderful . Almost as good as all those convoluted cryptograms people keep finding in Shakespeare's sonnets which prove that Francis Bacon or the Earl of Oxford actually wrote them. (Not to mention the fact that Oxford had three daughters, as did King Lear. Voila! What could be clearer? ).<P>Sadly this whole anti-American analogy breaks down rather quickly. Sure, Sam starts out deferring to Frodo in everything ("toady" to me implies more active fawning than Sam would ever do) but notice how in the end he not only is the ONLY person to stick by Frodo, but he also singlehandedly saves Frodo's neck, not the mention the Ring that goes around it. (WWII parallel, anyone?) Hardly what an anti-American author would do. Also, while Tolkien had probably heard of "Uncle Sam" it probably wasn't the first thing that leapt to mind when he thought of the US. More likely the war came to mind, all things considered. And it's not like he would have been seeing "I want YOU" posters in Britain, anyway...<P>And oh yes, "Let Freedom Ring" would be a worse title than "Attack of the Clones" - or at least it would be a photo finish. It sounds like the title of a deservedly unsuccessful musical from about 1937 or so. Not good.<p>[ May 14, 2002: Message edited by: Kalimac ]

05-14-2002, 01:33 AM	#11
Kalimac Candle of the Marshes Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Flyover Country Posts: 780	Oh, this is wonderful . Almost as good as all those convoluted cryptograms people keep finding in Shakespeare's sonnets which prove that Francis Bacon or the Earl of Oxford actually wrote them. (Not to mention the fact that Oxford had three daughters, as did King Lear. Voila! What could be clearer? ).<P>Sadly this whole anti-American analogy breaks down rather quickly. Sure, Sam starts out deferring to Frodo in everything ("toady" to me implies more active fawning than Sam would ever do) but notice how in the end he not only is the ONLY person to stick by Frodo, but he also singlehandedly saves Frodo's neck, not the mention the Ring that goes around it. (WWII parallel, anyone?) Hardly what an anti-American author would do. Also, while Tolkien had probably heard of "Uncle Sam" it probably wasn't the first thing that leapt to mind when he thought of the US. More likely the war came to mind, all things considered. And it's not like he would have been seeing "I want YOU" posters in Britain, anyway...<P>And oh yes, "Let Freedom Ring" would be a worse title than "Attack of the Clones" - or at least it would be a photo finish. It sounds like the title of a deservedly unsuccessful musical from about 1937 or so. Not good.<p>[ May 14, 2002: Message edited by: Kalimac ] __________________ Father, dear Father, if you see fit, We'll send my love to college for one year yet Tie blue ribbons all about his head, To let the ladies know that he's married.