The 3 Rings

[Tar-Palantir]

Kinda pessimistic, dontcha think?

I would call it pragmatic rather than pessimistic. I was immediately reminded by your comment of something Gildor said when speaking to Frodo in book one. let me look it up...here it is...

Frodo:

'Go not to the elves for counsel for they will say both no and yes.'

Compare Frodo's saying to what you had of Elrond above. Fits, does it not?

Gildor's response:

'Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for it is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill.'

That is not pessimism, but words of a wise elf who has seen many days.

On another note, the quest certainly took something from Frodo, but not his life. So either her vision is faulty, or PJ kills him. Actually if I recall correctly wasn't Galadriels quote when speaking with Elrond-
"The Quest will claim his life.
YOU have seen it." So wasn't it Elrond's vision, perhaps they both had the same vision? Does anyone rember it this way besides me?

[ February 04, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]