Who is more beutiful Eowyn or Arwen - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mark12_30 · 04-02-2003, 12:02 PM

I really don't think she was whining. I think Aragorn's decision to intentionally lay down his life "early" took her by surprise. As a Numenorean, he had the right to do so; but why should he? He was leaving her while he "still had some good years left". I don't think she grasped his reasons why he was leaving at that time (I'm not sure I do, either). As I understand it: he was leaving so his son could ascend the throne because he was ready, and Aragorn simply felt that it was his time to die well before he entered dotage. But-- still, I can almost hear Arwen thinking, why? Why now? Why not spend more time with me? After what I sacrificed for you, can't you stay for me a little longer?As to who is more beautiful: Eowyn was, Fair, fair and cold, like a morning of pale spring still touched by winter's chill. Arwen was the Evenstar, that moved Frodo to say, Even the night shall be blessed, and all it's fear removed. As stated above, it depends on whether you prefer morning or evening. Some appreciate both.In terms of "lying around dreaming about Aragorn"--no, that's called Osanwe, and it's a powerful tool, not romantic daydreaming. It is the same "watching" that Galadriel and Elrond use; the same that Gandalf uses, that enabled him to speak to Frodo's mind atop Amon Hen. Tolkien describes it carefully. Arwen is no less a force in the war (because she fights with her mind) than Galadriel is (who also fights with her mind.)You can see Aragorn occasionally using Osanwe also; but Tolkien clearly states that Arwen and Galadriel watch from afar.[ April 02, 2003: Message edited by: mark12_30 ]

04-02-2003, 12:02 PM	#26
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	I really don't think she was whining. I think Aragorn's decision to intentionally lay down his life "early" took her by surprise. As a Numenorean, he had the right to do so; but why should he? He was leaving her while he "still had some good years left". I don't think she grasped his reasons why he was leaving at that time (I'm not sure I do, either). As I understand it: he was leaving so his son could ascend the throne because he was ready, and Aragorn simply felt that it was his time to die well before he entered dotage. <P>But-- still, I can almost hear Arwen thinking, why? Why now? Why not spend more time with me? After what I sacrificed for you, can't you stay for me a little longer?<P>As to who is more beautiful: Eowyn was, Fair, fair and cold, like a morning of pale spring still touched by winter's chill. Arwen was the Evenstar, that moved Frodo to say, Even the night shall be blessed, and all it's fear removed. <P>As stated above, it depends on whether you prefer morning or evening. Some appreciate both.<P>In terms of "lying around dreaming about Aragorn"--no, that's called Osanwe, and it's a powerful tool, not romantic daydreaming. It is the same "watching" that Galadriel and Elrond use; the same that Gandalf uses, that enabled him to speak to Frodo's mind atop Amon Hen. Tolkien describes it carefully. Arwen is no less a force in the war (because she fights with her mind) than Galadriel is (who also fights with her mind.)<P>You can see Aragorn occasionally using Osanwe also; but Tolkien clearly states that Arwen and Galadriel watch from afar.<p>[ April 02, 2003: Message edited by: mark12_30 ] __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.