Prince Imrahil? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Dark Shadow · 02-08-2003, 01:14 PM

On all the cast lists I've seen, Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth appears to be unmistakably absent. Does anyone know if he’ll be making an appearance in RotK, and if not, why not? Will they simply have Faramir wake up sooner, and become steward of Gondor in Denethor’s place? Sorry about all that, I’m just curious (and slightly angry at the idea that they would cut him out of the movies).- Shadow

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-08-2003, 01:53 PM

I really doubt whether Imrahil will make an appearance, which is a crying shame really. He was one of my favourite characters.[ February 08, 2003: Message edited by: Inderjit Sanghera ]

Dark Shadow · 02-08-2003, 02:02 PM

Ah ha. I just found Imrahil on the cast list on the One Ring. net. However, the fact that the name isn't a link doesn't seem too good. All the "main" characters have links for their names. Oh please don't tell me he'll turn up, fight a battle and go home again.

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-08-2003, 02:06 PM

Or maybe he'll die!

Dark Shadow · 02-08-2003, 02:10 PM

No way. Well, I could see that happening actually. I mean after Haldir.... But then again, there are plenty of deaths in RotK anyway, it hardly needs adding to. Well, at least he's on the list. That means Dol Amroth will have to show up at some point (I was dreading another "Elves at Helms Deep" situation, where suddenly a host of elves turns up instead of the men of Dol Amroth....). Oh well. I guess we'll wait and see.

Tar-Palantir · 02-08-2003, 03:34 PM

Yep. Can you believe it's only 311 more days till we find out? Time is really flying by...

Lalaith · 02-08-2003, 04:05 PM

Dark Shadow - where was the cast list you saw? I've just looked around tORN and can't find one with Imrahil on it. Also I am fairly sure there will be no Beregond or Bergil.

GaladrieloftheOlden · 02-08-2003, 04:21 PM

I don't think they'll put in Beregond or Begil in either, just more names to remember, but I really liked Imrahil. Also- a little of topic- what was the point of killing Haldir? I really liked him too! I mean, I wouldn't want them to cut it out or anything, it was the saddest part and really well done, and the arrival of the Elves was also one of my favorites, but it was kind of randomly thrown in...Maybe PJ wants to show that its not all happily ever after...dunno.

Lalaith · 02-08-2003, 04:27 PM

There was some rumour going around that Nick Nolte had been cast as Beregond. But I think it was just a rumour.

Arwen Evenstar the Fair · 02-08-2003, 05:46 PM

I really hope they put Imrahil in ROTK!!! Even if its a reduced role. He rocks!!!

Gorwingel · 02-08-2003, 07:06 PM

Guess I am going to have to go back and read ROTK, because I do not know who you are talking about.

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-09-2003, 06:49 AM

Nick Nolte as Beregond? I hope it was a joke.

Naldoriathil · 02-09-2003, 07:01 AM

If you go on <A HREF="http://www.tbhl.com," TARGET=_blank>www.tbhl.com,</A> Beregond is actually on the cast list. This is Peter Jackson's own website, so I hope he is not lying to us! I'm afraid I saw no Prince Imrahil but I think i saw Dol Amroth mentioned, I'll go back and see

Dark Shadow · 02-09-2003, 08:08 AM

Hang on, I'll just find that list...<A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/movie/char/" TARGET=_blank>Complete Character List</A>There we go. He's in the second column about 3/4 names down, below Hama.

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-09-2003, 08:43 AM

Whats with those terrible pics, next to the names on Onering?

Dark Shadow · 02-09-2003, 08:50 AM

They're probably drawings of the original drawings of the characters or something..

Inderjit Sanghera · 02-09-2003, 08:58 AM

They're almost as bad as the cartoon version of LoTR.Did you see 'Orc-Sam' in there?

Tar-Palantir · 02-09-2003, 02:50 PM

Goldberry, Radagast, Halbarad, Beregond, Bergil, Glorfindel ??I don't think that cast list is correct, DarkShadow. Some of these characters are completely written out already.Naldoriathil - I couldn't get the link to work. Anyone else try it?[ February 09, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ]

doug*platypus · 02-10-2003, 05:37 AM

That's cool, they've updated that list since I last saw it. Just because someone's name turns up however, doesn't mean that they have a large part - or even a speaking part!The fact that they have a link, a biography and a picture for characters like Uglúk and even the Mouth of Sauron, but have nothing of the sort for Prince Imrahil, does not bode well. Other nervous Imrahil fans can be found on <A HREF="http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=001467" TARGET=_blank>this thread</A>.So long as they get his costume right I'll be... kind of happy, I suppose. He was always the most glamourous character in my mind. Go the Swan Knights! Oh, no! I just realised, I know a spoiler about them. Alas!

HCIsland · 02-10-2003, 01:24 PM

I really think Imrahil will get the same treatment as Gil-galad. You may be able to pick him out, but no lines.H.C.

Dark Shadow · 02-10-2003, 02:44 PM

Yeah. I didn't even notice Gil-Galad the first 10 or so times I watched it. I was convinced that was Elrond then I watched it again last night and just about picked him out. Well, I guess we'll just have to cross our fingers, but judging on how much they have to fit in they'll probably cut his character. I'll miss that. I was looking forward to seeing if they could find any actor perfect enough . yes, elves are supposed to be the fairest of all, but somehow Imrahil and his men always came across as better looking than any of the elves... I don't know why though...

02-08-2003, 01:14 PM	#1
Dark Shadow Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Someplace in Middle Earth Posts: 130	Prince Imrahil? On all the cast lists I've seen, Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth appears to be unmistakably absent. Does anyone know if he’ll be making an appearance in RotK, and if not, why not? Will they simply have Faramir wake up sooner, and become steward of Gondor in Denethor’s place? <P>Sorry about all that, I’m just curious (and slightly angry at the idea that they would cut him out of the movies).<P>- Shadow

02-08-2003, 01:53 PM	#2
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	I really doubt whether Imrahil will make an appearance, which is a crying shame really. He was one of my favourite characters.<p>[ February 08, 2003: Message edited by: Inderjit Sanghera ] __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-08-2003, 02:06 PM	#4
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	Or maybe he'll die! __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-08-2003, 03:34 PM	#6
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	Yep. Can you believe it's only 311 more days till we find out? Time is really flying by... __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

02-08-2003, 04:05 PM	#7
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Dark Shadow - where was the cast list you saw? I've just looked around tORN and can't find one with Imrahil on it.<BR>Also I am fairly sure there will be no Beregond or Bergil. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

02-08-2003, 02:02 PM	#3
Dark Shadow Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Someplace in Middle Earth Posts: 130	Ah ha. I just found Imrahil on the cast list on the One Ring. net. However, the fact that the name isn't a link doesn't seem too good. All the "main" characters have links for their names. Oh please don't tell me he'll turn up, fight a battle and go home again.

02-08-2003, 02:10 PM	#5
Dark Shadow Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Someplace in Middle Earth Posts: 130	No way. Well, I could see that happening actually. I mean after Haldir.... But then again, there are plenty of deaths in RotK anyway, it hardly needs adding to. Well, at least he's on the list. That means Dol Amroth will have to show up at some point (I was dreading another "Elves at Helms Deep" situation, where suddenly a host of elves turns up instead of the men of Dol Amroth....). Oh well. I guess we'll wait and see.

02-08-2003, 04:21 PM	#8
GaladrieloftheOlden Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Massachusetts - digging up a bottomless hole, searching for something that's not there... Posts: 1,514	I don't think they'll put in Beregond or Begil in either, just more names to remember, but I really liked Imrahil. Also- a little of topic- what was the point of killing Haldir? I really liked him too! I mean, I wouldn't want them to cut it out or anything, it was the saddest part and really well done, and the arrival of the Elves was also one of my favorites, but it was kind of randomly thrown in...Maybe PJ wants to show that its not all happily ever after...dunno. __________________ "Glue... very powerful stuff."

02-08-2003, 04:27 PM	#9
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	There was some rumour going around that Nick Nolte had been cast as Beregond. But I think it was just a rumour. __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

02-08-2003, 05:46 PM	#10
Arwen Evenstar the Fair Wight Join Date: May 2002 Location: Gondor Posts: 235	I really hope they put Imrahil in ROTK!!! Even if its a reduced role. He rocks!!! __________________ ~Arwen~

02-08-2003, 07:06 PM	#11
Gorwingel Beholder of the Mists Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Somewhere in the Northwest... for now Posts: 1,419	Guess I am going to have to go back and read ROTK, because I do not know who you are talking about. __________________ Wanted - Wonderfully witty quote that consists of pure brilliance

02-09-2003, 06:49 AM	#12
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	Nick Nolte as Beregond? I hope it was a joke. __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-09-2003, 07:01 AM	#13
Naldoriathil Haunting Spirit Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: London Posts: 71	If you go on <A HREF="http://www.tbhl.com," TARGET=_blank>www.tbhl.com,</A> Beregond is actually on the cast list. This is Peter Jackson's own website, so I hope he is not lying to us! I'm afraid I saw no Prince Imrahil but I think i saw Dol Amroth mentioned, I'll go back and see __________________ "He is Aragorn, Son of Arathorn, Heir to the Throne of Gondor!"

02-09-2003, 08:08 AM	#14
Dark Shadow Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Someplace in Middle Earth Posts: 130	Hang on, I'll just find that list...<P><A HREF="http://www.theonering.net/movie/char/" TARGET=_blank>Complete Character List</A><P>There we go. He's in the second column about 3/4 names down, below Hama.

02-09-2003, 08:43 AM	#15
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	Whats with those terrible pics, next to the names on Onering? __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-09-2003, 08:50 AM	#16
Dark Shadow Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Someplace in Middle Earth Posts: 130	They're probably drawings of the original drawings of the characters or something..

02-09-2003, 08:58 AM	#17
Inderjit Sanghera Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England Posts: 716	They're almost as bad as the cartoon version of LoTR.Did you see 'Orc-Sam' in there? __________________ “If I’m more of an influence on your son as a rapper then you are as a father then you've got to look at yourself as a parent” ~>Ice Cube. "Life is so beautiful"->Don Vito Corleone

02-09-2003, 02:50 PM	#18
Tar-Palantir Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: napa valley, ca Posts: 496	Goldberry, Radagast, Halbarad, Beregond, Bergil, Glorfindel ??<P>I don't think that cast list is correct, DarkShadow. Some of these characters are completely written out already.<P><B>Naldoriathil</B> - I couldn't get the link to work. Anyone else try it?<p>[ February 09, 2003: Message edited by: Tar-Palantir ] __________________ History shows again and again How nature points up the folly of men Go, go, Godzilla!

02-10-2003, 05:37 AM	#19
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	That's cool, they've updated that list since I last saw it. Just because someone's name turns up however, doesn't mean that they have a large part - or even a speaking part!<P>The fact that they have a link, a biography and a picture for characters like Uglúk and even the Mouth of Sauron, but have nothing of the sort for <B>Prince</B> Imrahil, does not bode well. <P>Other nervous Imrahil fans can be found on <A HREF="http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=001467" TARGET=_blank>this thread</A>.<P>So long as they get his costume right I'll be... kind of happy, I suppose. He was always the most glamourous character in my mind. Go the Swan Knights! Oh, no! I just realised, I know a spoiler about them. Alas! __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.

02-10-2003, 01:24 PM	#20
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	I really think Imrahil will get the same treatment as Gil-galad. You may be able to pick him out, but no lines.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

02-10-2003, 02:44 PM	#21
Dark Shadow Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Someplace in Middle Earth Posts: 130	Yeah. I didn't even notice Gil-Galad the first 10 or so times I watched it. I was convinced that was Elrond then I watched it again last night and just about picked him out. Well, I guess we'll just have to cross our fingers, but judging on how much they have to fit in they'll probably cut his character. I'll miss that. I was looking forward to seeing if they could find any actor perfect enough . yes, elves are supposed to be the fairest of all, but somehow Imrahil and his men always came across as better looking than any of the elves... I don't know why though...