the watcher in the water - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

doug*platypus · 02-01-2003, 04:23 AM

Once again, as so often in real life, a discoloured monkey has shown us 'higher' primates the way.

I think the Purple One makes a very interesting point about the motives of the Watcher. Perhaps its later actions (after the seizing of Frodo or the Ring was foiled) were motivated by self-defence, or a desire to get back to sleep. If Sauron could control one of these foul beasts, why didn't he try to find a female one, and have loads and loads of them all through the waterways of Middle-Earth? Probably cause that's ridiculously far-fetched, but you never know maybe he could have.

I think that it was the Ring that drew it towards Frodo. We can hardly have expected it to have read the Wanted Poster in the Barad-Dûr Post Office, after all. And I believe that a good motive for its sealing the fellowship in Moria was to get them out of its hair. I don't believe it was controlled by anybody, much like Shelob or Ungoliant.

02-01-2003, 04:23 AM	#1
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	Once again, as so often in real life, a discoloured monkey has shown us 'higher' primates the way. I think the Purple One makes a very interesting point about the motives of the Watcher. Perhaps its later actions (after the seizing of Frodo or the Ring was foiled) were motivated by self-defence, or a desire to get back to sleep. If Sauron could control one of these foul beasts, why didn't he try to find a female one, and have loads and loads of them all through the waterways of Middle-Earth? Probably cause that's ridiculously far-fetched, but you never know maybe he could have. I think that it was the Ring that drew it towards Frodo. We can hardly have expected it to have read the Wanted Poster in the Barad-Dûr Post Office, after all. And I believe that a good motive for its sealing the fellowship in Moria was to get them out of its hair. I don't believe it was controlled by anybody, much like Shelob or Ungoliant. __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.