In Defense of PJ - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Diamond18 · 11-18-2002, 10:08 PM

Here, here. Y'all know I'm a PJ supporter already, but I have to add my 2¢ worth on the subject once again.This guy is a BIG fan of Tolkien. He was looking forward to someone making the movie someday, so he could go see it. When that didn't happen, he put his money where his mouth was, and made it himself! (None of this, "I could make a better movie...you betcha" and that's all).And the changes he made weren't willy-nilly. He thought about them at length. Plus, he wrote the screenplay with two other people, Fran Walsh and Phillipa Boyens. Can you imagine being in on that? All the differing ideas? I imagine at times it was something like these threads here at the Barrow-Downs. Maybe.So even if you disagree with some changes, you've got to respect the man, along the other men and women who were in on the process. They did it as fans, and (I think) as very intelligent fans at that.So when we get inclined to sound a bit self-righteous, like we're protecting Tolkien from some clueless jerk with dollar signs in his eyes, we should stop and think, "Have I devoted 5 years of my life to making this movie?"I'm not saying we shouldn't compare or evaluate the movie at all. Just don't get too invective about it, and don't be so quick to say "I could do it better!" Edit: Aha, bet you thought I was through, eh? <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Somebody who was really trying to "appease the femenists" as I and others have said on numerous occasions would have added a woman to the Fellowship. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Orual, that reminded me of this picture: Now, aren't we all thankful that the Brothers Hildebrandt were erroneous in what they expected the movie to be like? This picture is titled, "Arwen Joins the Quest".[ November 18, 2002: Message edited by: Diamond18 ]

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Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Here, here. Y'all know I'm a PJ supporter already, but I have to add my 2¢ worth on the subject once again.<P>This guy is a BIG fan of Tolkien. He was looking forward to someone making the movie someday, so he could go see it. When that didn't happen, he put his money where his mouth was, and made it himself! (None of this, "I could make a better movie...you betcha" and that's all).<P>And the changes he made weren't willy-nilly. He thought about them at length. Plus, he wrote the screenplay with two other people, Fran Walsh and Phillipa Boyens. Can you imagine being in on that? All the differing ideas? I imagine at times it was something like these threads here at the Barrow-Downs. Maybe.<P>So even if you disagree with some changes, you've got to respect the man, along the other men and women who were in on the process. They did it as fans, and (I think) as very intelligent fans at that.<P>So when we get inclined to sound a bit self-righteous, like we're protecting Tolkien from some clueless jerk with dollar signs in his eyes, we should stop and think, "Have I devoted 5 years of my life to making this movie?"<P>I'm not saying we shouldn't compare or evaluate the movie at all. Just don't get too invective about it, and don't be so quick to say "I could do it better!" <P>Edit: Aha, bet you thought I was through, eh?<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Somebody who was really trying to "appease the femenists" as I and others have said on numerous occasions would have added a woman to the Fellowship. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Orual, that reminded me of this picture:<P> <P>Now, aren't we all thankful that the Brothers Hildebrandt were erroneous in what they expected the movie to be like? This picture is titled, "Arwen Joins the Quest".<p>[ November 18, 2002: Message edited by: Diamond18 ] __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.