Boromir's death - book or movie? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

HCIsland · 09-15-2003, 02:48 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Here's a question, do you think Boromir's book-death would have had a different effect on people if it had been placed at the end of the FotR instead of at the beginning of TTT? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I think if you put the Departure of Boromir chapter at the end of Fellowship, it would have been anti-climatic after the Breaking of the Fellowship chapter. Hence why PJ had Frodo and Sam leaving after Boromir's death.<P>I also think Prof. Tolkien was somewhat restricted by the way he chose to write the chapters. Sticking with one perspective, usually a Hobbit's. That meant he couldn't jump between scenes with the same luxury that Jackson had. Changing that structure would have changed the flavour of the entire book, and certainly none of us would want to see that.<P>H.C.

sassyfriend · 09-29-2011, 10:13 PM

Boromir's death in the movie hurts worse than in the book

Mithalwen · 09-29-2011, 11:04 PM

Blimey what a bit of archeology.

And there must be something wrong with me because I found Boromir's film death scene the funniest thing I had seen in years - only superseded by Frodo shrink wrapped by shelob for amusement...

sassyfriend · 09-30-2011, 09:24 AM

Why did you think it funny?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 09-30-2011, 07:03 PM

I quite enjoyed the display of heroism we are shown in the film, but it was always a balance act between the heroic and the slightly silly.

The way he was repeatedly pierced by arrows and still had strength to kill everything within a 2 meter radius, almost became to much, but it sort of worked.

I did find Aragorns fight with the Uruk to be over the top though.

sassyfriend · 09-30-2011, 07:07 PM

Why over the top?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 09-30-2011, 07:20 PM

Why?

Did you not notice that Aragorn chose to catapult him self at the Uruk, instead of simply stabbing it and be done with it. The Uruk somehow manages to throw a shield that gets stuck in a tree trunk, and at the same time has a strangle hold of Aragorn. When Aragorn finally pierce the Uruk with his blade, it simply starts pulling the sword further through its torso in order to get a shot at French-kissing Aragorn.

So we have Ranger that gives his adversary a warning shot, before starting the proper fight. On the other hand we have an Uruk, capable of precision hurling shields at moving targets, and that doesn't seem to be moved by pain or its own impending death.

Galadriel55 · 09-30-2011, 07:27 PM

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The way he was repeatedly pierced by arrows and still had strength to kill everything within a 2 meter radius, almost became to much, but it sort of worked.

LOTR isn't the first movie/book where characters are shot but continue to fight and shot again, until they die. I didn't really mind that part. And it's not like it's that unrealistic.

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I did find Aragorns fight with the Uruk to be over the top though.

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Why over the top?

I agree with Rune here. It's of the same category as the Legolas-the-shield-surfer scene, if you get what I'm talking about.

Plus, thanks to a youtube video that helped me notice this detail, Aragorn's sword flies out of his hand, and the next moment it's back, and flies out again.

Not that this is relevant in any way.

edit: xed with Rune. I think your reasons for disliking the scene are more "technical" than mine.

sassyfriend · 09-30-2011, 08:11 PM

I get what ur saying now

and u are right but i still like it though

Mithalwen · 10-01-2011, 01:12 PM

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Why did you think it funny?

Because it was ludicrous the way the arrows were there and not there and not there again and it was cheesy, schmaltzy and in retrospect because anyone who gets kissed by Aragorn dies....

sassyfriend · 10-01-2011, 02:37 PM

Yes i think Elrond would've been great for doing that. How many others have died that Aragorn kissed? Speaking of which Boromir was already dead when Aragorn kissed him and it was a sign of respect nothing gay about it at all. There are no arrows missing in Boromir!!!!!!

Galadriel55 · 10-01-2011, 02:41 PM

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Yes i think Elrond would've been great for doing that.

Oh my. You have a long way to go in terms of Downer humour.

Morthoron · 10-01-2011, 04:15 PM

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Yes i think Elrond would've been great for doing that.

Certainly. I mean, since he had already travelled over 500 miles through hostile terrain and passed an enemy army to deliver a sword, what's one more errand another 100 or so miles away? I'm surprised he didn't stop in Gondor for tea with Gandalf. Come to think of it, he really should have led the Fellowship, considering he eluded ever single obstacle by himself.

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Speaking of which Boromir was already dead when Aragorn kissed him and it was a sign of respect nothing gay about it at all.

Well, the part where he slipped him the tongue was a bit over the top.

Pitchwife · 10-01-2011, 04:32 PM

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anyone who gets kissed by Aragorn dies....

What happened to the poor horse?

Mithalwen · 10-01-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sassyfriend

Yes i think Elrond would've been great for doing that. How many others have died that Aragorn kissed? Speaking of which Boromir was already dead when Aragorn kissed him and it was a sign of respect nothing gay about it at all. There are no arrows missing in Boromir!!!!!!

I never said it was gay and frankly I wouldn't give a damn if it were. But that big black arrow hits him about three times.

Haldir. I know he shouldn't have been at Helm's Deep anyway but when Aragorn greets him.... the expression on his face ..you can tell he knows his number's up... either that or he is really embarassed by the blingy armour.

Inzil - HE knew she was momentarily distracted and took his chance... and yep the horse was doomed..... also Arwen.... as if it weren't bad enough that toyboy clearly didn't prefer snogging the horse... guess it is easy to get them confused....

09-15-2003, 02:48 PM	#1
HCIsland Zombie Cannibal Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,000	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Here's a question, do you think Boromir's book-death would have had a different effect on people if it had been placed at the end of the FotR instead of at the beginning of TTT? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I think if you put the Departure of Boromir chapter at the end of Fellowship, it would have been anti-climatic after the Breaking of the Fellowship chapter. Hence why PJ had Frodo and Sam leaving after Boromir's death.<P>I also think Prof. Tolkien was somewhat restricted by the way he chose to write the chapters. Sticking with one perspective, usually a Hobbit's. That meant he couldn't jump between scenes with the same luxury that Jackson had. Changing that structure would have changed the flavour of the entire book, and certainly none of us would want to see that.<P>H.C. __________________ "Stir not the bitterness in the cup that I mixed myself. Have I not tasted it now many nights upon my tongue, foreboding that worse yet lay in the dregs." -Denethor

09-29-2011, 11:04 PM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Hadn't laughed so much since granny died..... Blimey what a bit of archeology. And there must be something wrong with me because I found Boromir's film death scene the funniest thing I had seen in years - only superseded by Frodo shrink wrapped by shelob for amusement... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

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sassyfriend Wight Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 165	Boromir's death in the movie hurts worse than in the book

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sassyfriend Wight Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 165	Why did you think it funny?

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sassyfriend Wight Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 165	Why over the top?

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sassyfriend Wight Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 165	I get what ur saying now and u are right but i still like it though

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sassyfriend Wight Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 165	Yes i think Elrond would've been great for doing that. How many others have died that Aragorn kissed? Speaking of which Boromir was already dead when Aragorn kissed him and it was a sign of respect nothing gay about it at all. There are no arrows missing in Boromir!!!!!!