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Estelyn Telcontar · 12-16-2003, 12:51 PM

What did you think of the Witch King in the new movie?

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 12-17-2003, 02:20 PM

Terrifying. Though his confrontation with Gandalf was missed.

Oddwen · 12-17-2003, 04:29 PM

VERY cool. I liked the part where they were dressing him in his armor, sort of a reverse-Theoden deal, with darkness instead of sunbeams."Who am I, Snaga?" "You are the Witch King, sire!" Very good scene between him and Eowyn. Implosions are always cool.

Luinalatawen · 12-17-2003, 07:17 PM

As I mentioned in the Eowyn thread, I really liked when the witchking emerged with the orc army before marching off to the Pelennor- when Frodo and Co. are hiding. I could sense how terrified they were and how evil and powerful the witchking was.

Sapphire_Flame · 12-17-2003, 07:30 PM

Thoroughly terrifying. I loved his confrontation with Eowyn; and the whole tin-can-in-a-vacuum implosion things was really cool. I did miss his confrontation with Gandalf, but I'm assuming that will be in the Extended Version.Overall, extraordinarily well done; I was shaking in my boots...well, if I had been wearing boots, I would have been shaking in them! Abedithon le,~*~Aranel~*~

Lëowen · 12-17-2003, 07:40 PM

Fantastic! He was really menacing and evil, and his helmet was wonderfully designed, though I was a bit disappointed that you couldn't see his burning red eyes. On the whole, though, I thought he was great!

Catherine · 12-17-2003, 07:55 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> a bit disappointed that you couldn't see his burning red eyes <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Me too.....but I still thought it was really good

The Only Real Estel · 12-17-2003, 10:01 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Though his confrontation with Gandalf was missed.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That sooo disapointed me . One of the things I was looking forward to much, but I suppose it'll be in the EE. So I only have to wait for another 11 months or so . I did like his cool belching-mouth mask though .

burrahobbit · 12-18-2003, 12:46 AM

I would have prefered his original dialogue with Eowyn. Maybe he could have been shown leading more during the battle. Thumbs up, otherwise.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 12-18-2003, 12:19 PM

Agreed. He didn't seem to be leading at all in the battle. That pig was taking all the glory.

GreyIstar · 12-18-2003, 12:25 PM

I was glad he said Do not come between a Nazgul and his prey.

Lily Bracegirdle · 12-18-2003, 07:27 PM

He was terrific! The moment after Eowyn kills the fell beast was so perfect I could hear the words from the book: <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Backward she sprang as the huge shape crashed to ruin, vast wings outspread, crumpled on the earth . . .Out of the wreck rose the Black Rider, tall and threatening above her. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>-Lily

doug*platypus · 12-18-2003, 07:35 PM

I can't decide which line I love most <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Feast on his flesh! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>or <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Give up the halfling, she-elf! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Deserves death? I daresay he does!It would have been much more effective to get rid of Goonies-Orc and have the Witch-King commanding the army of Morgul. His role was too greatly reduced. Plus he never did back up his words about sorting out Gandalf. He just flew around picking up people, throwing them down, picking up people, throwing them down. Got a bit tiresome after a while.The 'getting dressed for battle' was well done, quite scary. But as we've seen so many 'getting dressed for battle' scenes already, it lost a lot of impact. Sure, implode, whatever. It didn't seem to have much bearing on the outcome of the battle, at least in the movie.

Finwe · 12-19-2003, 01:31 PM

I genuinely got scared when he was confronted by Eowyn. Everything about the Witchking just chilled me to the bone. It was sooo amazing.

Iarhen · 12-19-2003, 04:13 PM

I loved every minute of his appareances...The confrontation with Eowyn was great, specailly his mace action...But the line I loved the most was:Goonie-looking orc: "And what about the wizard"W. King: "Worry not about him. I will break him"I LOVED THAT LINE!!!And I was so scared for my good ol Gandalf...

12-16-2003, 12:51 PM	#1
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	RotK - Witch King What did you think of the Witch King in the new movie? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

12-17-2003, 02:20 PM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Terrifying. Though his confrontation with Gandalf was missed. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

12-17-2003, 04:29 PM	#3
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,145	VERY cool. I liked the part where they were dressing him in his armor, sort of a reverse-Theoden deal, with darkness instead of sunbeams.<P>"Who am I, Snaga?"<BR>"You are the Witch King, sire!"<P><BR>Very good scene between him and Eowyn. Implosions are always cool. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

12-17-2003, 07:17 PM	#4
Luinalatawen Wight Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 122	As I mentioned in the Eowyn thread, I really liked when the witchking emerged with the orc army before marching off to the Pelennor- when Frodo and Co. are hiding. I could sense how terrified they were and how evil and powerful the witchking was. __________________ My philosophy: A chapter of a Tolkien book a day keeps Sauron's hitmen away.

12-17-2003, 07:30 PM	#5
Sapphire_Flame Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The World That Never Was Posts: 1,232	Thoroughly terrifying. I loved his confrontation with Eowyn; and the whole tin-can-in-a-vacuum implosion things was really cool. I did miss his confrontation with Gandalf, but I'm assuming that will be in the Extended Version.<P>Overall, extraordinarily well done; I was shaking in my boots...well, if I had been wearing boots, I would have been shaking in them! <P>Abedithon le,<P>~~Aranel~~ __________________ The Hitchhiking Ghost

12-17-2003, 07:40 PM	#6
Lëowen Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: my computer chair, being smothered by my impossibly large cat Posts: 93	Fantastic! He was really menacing and evil, and his helmet was wonderfully designed, though I was a bit disappointed that you couldn't see his burning red eyes. On the whole, though, I thought he was great! __________________ Be individual! Join the millions of other people also being individual! Prevent Merry Abuse! Join S.A.M!

12-17-2003, 07:55 PM	#7
Catherine Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 297	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> a bit disappointed that you couldn't see his burning red eyes <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Me too.....but I still thought it was really good __________________ ~.:Catherine:.~ "I have never been out of my own land before. And if I had known what the world outside was like. I don't think I should have had the heart to leave it." ~Merry to Haldir in Lothlórien~

12-17-2003, 10:01 PM	#8
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Though his confrontation with Gandalf was missed.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>That sooo disapointed me . One of the things I was looking forward to much, but I suppose it'll be in the EE. So I only have to wait for another 11 months or so . I did like his cool belching-mouth mask though .

12-18-2003, 12:46 AM	#9
burrahobbit Hidden Spirit Join Date: May 2000 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,424	I would have prefered his original dialogue with Eowyn. Maybe he could have been shown leading more during the battle. Thumbs up, otherwise. __________________ What's a burrahobbit got to do with my pocket, anyways?

12-18-2003, 12:19 PM	#10
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Agreed. He didn't seem to be leading at all in the battle. That pig was taking all the glory. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

12-18-2003, 12:25 PM	#11
GreyIstar Wight Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Dallas Posts: 116	I was glad he said Do not come between a Nazgul and his prey. __________________ Keeper of the site Ring Lord. "Dangerous!" cried Gandalf. "And so am I, very dangerous: more dangerous than anything you will ever meet, unless you are brought alive before the seat of the Dark Lord."

12-18-2003, 07:27 PM	#12
Lily Bracegirdle Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bree Posts: 210	He was terrific! The moment after Eowyn kills the fell beast was so perfect I could hear the words from the book:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Backward she sprang as the huge shape crashed to ruin, vast wings outspread, crumpled on the earth . . .<B>Out of the wreck rose the Black Rider, tall and threatening above her.</B> <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>-Lily __________________ "But nay: the praise of the praiseworthy is above all rewards." - Faramir

12-18-2003, 07:35 PM	#13
doug*platypus Delver in the Deep Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Aotearoa Posts: 960	I can't decide which line I love most <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Feast on his flesh! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>or <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> Give up the halfling, she-elf! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Deserves death? I daresay he does!<P>It would have been much more effective to get rid of Goonies-Orc and have the Witch-King commanding the army of Morgul. His role was too greatly reduced. Plus he never did back up his words about sorting out Gandalf. He just flew around picking up people, throwing them down, picking up people, throwing them down. Got a bit tiresome after a while.<P>The 'getting dressed for battle' was well done, quite scary. But as we've seen so many 'getting dressed for battle' scenes already, it lost a lot of impact. Sure, implode, whatever. It didn't seem to have much bearing on the outcome of the battle, at least in the movie. __________________ But Gwindor answered: 'The doom lies in yourself, not in your name'.

12-19-2003, 01:31 PM	#14
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	I genuinely got scared when he was confronted by Eowyn. Everything about the Witchking just chilled me to the bone. It was sooo amazing. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.

12-19-2003, 04:13 PM	#15
Iarhen Wight Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Laurelindorenan Posts: 225	I loved every minute of his appareances...<P>The confrontation with Eowyn was great, specailly his mace action...<P>But the line I loved the most was:<P>Goonie-looking orc: "And what about the wizard"<P>W. King: "Worry not about him. I will break him"<P>I LOVED THAT LINE!!!<P>And I was so scared for my good ol Gandalf... __________________ "In place of a Dark Lord you will have a Queen! Not dark but beatiful and terrible as the Dawn! Treacherous as the sea! Stronger than the foundations of the Earth! All shall love me and despair!" --- Galadriel when tempted by the One Ring.