ROTK - exchanged lines - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Child of the 7th Age · 01-05-2004, 07:23 PM

Saucepan Man:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> But, although when I saw the film for the first time I did not place these lines from the book, it did occur to me that they were strange lines for Gandalf to be saying to Pippin, since Gandalf is clearly talking about the Undying Lands. And, while he will return there, Pippin's fate lies in an entirely different place. Still the sense of the journey not ending with death was conveyed well, and it was a nice touch given the situation that they were in.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It's definitely not something that Tolkien would have done, but I took these words in a wider sense. I felt PJ used Gandalf's speech to convey a "generic" assurance that death does not mean the termination of one's existence, whether referring to Elves or mortals. It was not limited to Elvenhome, which is how Tolkien originally used the description. Of course, according to the canon of the Legendarium, we know little about where men go -- only that they are not bound to the circles of the world. <P>How did others read this?

01-05-2004, 07:23 PM	#10
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Saucepan Man:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR> But, although when I saw the film for the first time I did not place these lines from the book, it did occur to me that they were strange lines for Gandalf to be saying to Pippin, since Gandalf is clearly talking about the Undying Lands. And, while he will return there, Pippin's fate lies in an entirely different place. Still the sense of the journey not ending with death was conveyed well, and it was a nice touch given the situation that they were in.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It's definitely not something that Tolkien would have done, but I took these words in a wider sense. I felt PJ used Gandalf's speech to convey a "generic" assurance that death does not mean the termination of one's existence, whether referring to Elves or mortals. It was not limited to Elvenhome, which is how Tolkien originally used the description. Of course, according to the canon of the Legendarium, we know little about where men go -- only that they are not bound to the circles of the world. <P>How did others read this? __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.