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The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 03-25-2004, 07:38 AM

I'm going to be difficult with this one and demand the full solution. As it happens, Simbelmynë is a long way from the right answer anyway.

Clue: double meanings are pivotal to the solution.

Turambar · 03-26-2004, 02:02 PM

Thinking out loud . . .

"Flower" could mean the name of a flower (rose, iris, daisy, to name some short ones), or the name of a river (Aros, Celos, etc., again starting with shorter names).

As a cryptic clue, "involved in" might mean that one word is inside another, as where "Soldier involved in familar area" becomes "LOGICAL" ("GI" in "local").

"Rite" - can't think of any short synonyms or examples.

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 03-30-2004, 07:14 AM

Well said. Do you have an answer to my question?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 04-06-2004, 06:27 AM

Any takers? It's easier than it looks.

Turambar · 04-06-2004, 02:59 PM

I'm sure I'll kick myself when the answer is guessed, but I don't see it.

Is there a "straight clue" in there ?

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 04-06-2004, 03:36 PM

In a way the entire clue is straight. Then again, in another sense the clue is entirely cryptic. At its heart there is a double meaning and yes, you will kick yourself.

Finwe · 04-06-2004, 06:32 PM

Let's see... Nenuial?

(Flower) --> (One who flows) --> Nin, nen

involved in --> is a part of/ along with

(Rite) --> Ritual --> uial

That gives you Nenuial.

03-25-2004, 07:38 AM	#1
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	I'm going to be difficult with this one and demand the full solution. As it happens, Simbelmynë is a long way from the right answer anyway. Clue: double meanings are pivotal to the solution. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

03-26-2004, 02:02 PM	#2
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	Thinking out loud . . . "Flower" could mean the name of a flower (rose, iris, daisy, to name some short ones), or the name of a river (Aros, Celos, etc., again starting with shorter names). As a cryptic clue, "involved in" might mean that one word is inside another, as where "Soldier involved in familar area" becomes "LOGICAL" ("GI" in "local"). "Rite" - can't think of any short synonyms or examples. __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

03-30-2004, 07:14 AM	#3
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Well said. Do you have an answer to my question? __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

04-06-2004, 06:27 AM	#4
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	Any takers? It's easier than it looks. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

04-06-2004, 02:59 PM	#5
Turambar Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Non-Stop Home Posts: 859	I'm sure I'll kick myself when the answer is guessed, but I don't see it. Is there a "straight clue" in there ? __________________ In the upper air the fireflies move more slowly.

04-06-2004, 03:36 PM	#6
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	In a way the entire clue is straight. Then again, in another sense the clue is entirely cryptic. At its heart there is a double meaning and yes, you will kick yourself. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?

04-06-2004, 06:32 PM	#7
Finwe Deathless Sun Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Royal Suite in the Halls of Mandos Posts: 2,609	Let's see... Nenuial? (Flower) --> (One who flows) --> Nin, nen involved in --> is a part of/ along with (Rite) --> Ritual --> uial That gives you Nenuial. __________________ But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.