Zep's Stairway and Tolkien - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

ArathorofBarahir · 04-24-2004, 03:26 PM

Blind Guardian's songs are not subtle at all. The come out and say things about Men, Hobbits and Dwarves. If you like metal and LOTR go and download some of Blind Guardian's songs.

Morgul Queen · 11-01-2004, 06:51 PM

I am very much in love with the Curse of Feanor!

*sings along*

What?

turgon · 11-01-2004, 07:20 PM

Battle of evermore... could not be about anything but JrrT's world. Despite what Robert Plant said. There is another song in which Plant names gollum but I can't remember the title

Sapphire_Flame · 11-01-2004, 08:14 PM

Quote:

There's a feeling I get when I look to the west,
And my spirit is crying for leaving.
In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees,
And the voices of those who stand looking.

That verse always reminds me of Frodo, after the quest. *sigh*

I agree that the song is not about LotR. But that's not to say that it couldn't have been influenced by it somewhat, even unintentionally. Be honest: how many people have written a poem, or drawn something, that when you looked at the finished product you find connections to things that you love, even if that's not what the piece is about? That may be some of the case with "Stairway".

"Battle of Evermore" is a great song about LotR, and the Battle of the Pelennor Field in particular. I know there's a site somewhere that analyzes the similarities, but the address escapes me at the moment. *headdesk* >.< Anyone else know it?

Abedithon le,

~ Saphy ~

Encaitare · 11-01-2004, 09:41 PM

Here are a couple of good links:

Zeppelin and Tolkien Relations Page -- This site asserts that Stariway to Heaven is not LotR-related

LedTolkien.com -- all too short, but it makes some good connections

I myself am not nearly as brushed up on my Led as I should be... I must make a note to save my pennies and buy an album.

As for Blind Guardian, their Nightfall in Middle Earth CD doesn't make just references to LotR, but it's the Silmarillion, rock opera style. Very hardcore. I'm not sure about their other albums, though.

Estelyn Telcontar · 11-02-2004, 01:19 AM

[Tongue-in-cheek]"rings of smoke" is an obvious reference to Gandalf!

And "our shadows taller than our soul" comes from one of Tolkien's 'minor' works, Smith of Wootton Major, in which Smith's shadow is giant-sized after he comes back from Faery.[/Tongue-in-cheek]

Morgul Queen · 11-02-2004, 09:06 PM

*grins* Why do you think I love the Nightfall in Middle-earth album so much?

Time Stands Still (At The Iron Hill) is very good. But while we're on the subject, Pink Floyd has at least one Tolkien referance, but I can't remember the song.

Ah well, there's nothing for it. *grabs Echoes and starts listening while her mother yell for her to 'Turn That Racket Down!'*

04-24-2004, 03:26 PM	#1
ArathorofBarahir Wight Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Crickhallow Posts: 247	Blind Guardian's songs are not subtle at all. The come out and say things about Men, Hobbits and Dwarves. If you like metal and LOTR go and download some of Blind Guardian's songs. __________________ King of the Dead: The dead do not suffer the living to pass. Aragorn: You will suffer me.

11-01-2004, 06:51 PM	#2
Morgul Queen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dontgonearthe Castle Posts: 414	I am very much in love with the Curse of Feanor! sings along What? __________________ Athrabeth is still doing the wave for Boromir the Disco-King Oh...and call me Morgy! Last edited by Estelyn Telcontar; 11-02-2004 at 01:15 AM. Reason: download link removed because of site policy

11-01-2004, 07:20 PM	#3
turgon Haunting Spirit Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Annagroth Posts: 57	Battle of evermore... could not be about anything but JrrT's world. Despite what Robert Plant said. There is another song in which Plant names gollum but I can't remember the title __________________ "What I have left behind I count now no loss, needless baggage on the road it has proved. Let those that cursed my name, curse me still, and whine their way back to the cages" " MIGHT IS RIGHT, DISSENT IS INTOLERABLE"

11-02-2004, 01:19 AM	#6
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	[Tongue-in-cheek]"rings of smoke" is an obvious reference to Gandalf! And "our shadows taller than our soul" comes from one of Tolkien's 'minor' works, Smith of Wootton Major, in which Smith's shadow is giant-sized after he comes back from Faery.[/Tongue-in-cheek] __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

11-02-2004, 09:06 PM	#7
Morgul Queen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dontgonearthe Castle Posts: 414	grins Why do you think I love the Nightfall in Middle-earth album so much? Time Stands Still (At The Iron Hill) is very good. But while we're on the subject, Pink Floyd has at least one Tolkien referance, but I can't remember the song. Ah well, there's nothing for it. grabs Echoes* and starts listening while her mother yell for her to 'Turn That Racket Down!'* __________________ Athrabeth is still doing the wave for Boromir the Disco-King Oh...and call me Morgy!

11-01-2004, 09:41 PM	#5
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Here are a couple of good links: Zeppelin and Tolkien Relations Page -- This site asserts that Stariway to Heaven is not LotR-related LedTolkien.com -- all too short, but it makes some good connections I myself am not nearly as brushed up on my Led as I should be... I must make a note to save my pennies and buy an album. As for Blind Guardian, their Nightfall in Middle Earth CD doesn't make just references to LotR, but it's the Silmarillion, rock opera style. Very hardcore. I'm not sure about their other albums, though.